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About halfway through this term - do you know you will go?
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rioux



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:25 am    Post subject: About halfway through this term - do you know you will go? Reply with quote

We are about halfway through this university/college term. Do you already know that you won't be signing on another year where you are?

I'm ready to split right now.
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Listerine



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the problem?
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jm21



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to change over summer break, but it's no fault of my school really. The second semester has been better as the students really liked my class last semester and so the school has basically let me do whatever I want this semester.

Just want more money than a uni job pays.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He probably has China Burnout Syndrome or he ran out of questions to ask on this forum
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litterascriptor



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just came to an agreement for a former employer. I have six months where I am now and then I head south to start work. I get a nice hefty rise of salary, a bit surprised by how much the offered me.
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Guerciotti



Joined: 13 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Littera - I am glad to hear you found a good place!

As for me, I'm ready to go. Now. But perhaps that is foolish. At this time there are few positions open, so I should wait until the semester break, but I am so ready to quit.
I met two former teachers at a training seminar - they told me to quit. Flat out quit. But I hate to quit. Well it seems they were right and I have made a big mistake.
They want perfect class discipline, no bad behavior, nothing, but the students must attend every class, even mine, even if they won't take the test.
They tell me to teach only from the book, then criticise me for doing so. If I look at my notes once, I am unprepared. I look at my notes often. Is that wrong? There are so many other things. Frustrating. I cannot win here.
I am not perfect at class management, but I am not bad. I am focused on teaching my subjects, and it is a lot of work, but at this place ...
Ok end rant ...
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thechangling



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guerciotti wrote:
Littera - I am glad to hear you found a good place!

As for me, I'm ready to go. Now. But perhaps that is foolish. At this time there are few positions open, so I should wait until the semester break, but I am so ready to quit.
I met two former teachers at a training seminar - they told me to quit. Flat out quit. But I hate to quit. Well it seems they were right and I have made a big mistake.
They want perfect class discipline, no bad behavior, nothing, but the students must attend every class, even mine, even if they won't take the test.
They tell me to teach only from the book, then criticise me for doing so. If I look at my notes once, I am unprepared. I look at my notes often. Is that wrong? There are so many other things. Frustrating. I cannot win here.
I am not perfect at class management, but I am not bad. I am focused on teaching my subjects, and it is a lot of work, but at this place ...

Ok end rant ...

Now i understand why you want to quit. Management sounds like insane nazis. If you can handle it, wait it out. If you can't bear it, organise to depart quietly and smoothly if possible.
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damn_my_eyes



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything in life can be great doing these jobs (nice apartment, good friends, enough money etc.)
But if your job sucks it makes a massive difference.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks TC & DME. Yes this is quite an experience, and unlike any job experience I have ever had. I hope to stay until the new year to finish my curriculum. Unless they fire me first.
Cheers y'all.
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litterascriptor



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guerciotti wrote:
Littera - I am glad to hear you found a good place!

As for me, I'm ready to go. Now. But perhaps that is foolish. At this time there are few positions open, so I should wait until the semester break, but I am so ready to quit.
I met two former teachers at a training seminar - they told me to quit. Flat out quit. But I hate to quit. Well it seems they were right and I have made a big mistake.
They want perfect class discipline, no bad behavior, nothing, but the students must attend every class, even mine, even if they won't take the test.
They tell me to teach only from the book, then criticise me for doing so. If I look at my notes once, I am unprepared. I look at my notes often. Is that wrong? There are so many other things. Frustrating. I cannot win here.
I am not perfect at class management, but I am not bad. I am focused on teaching my subjects, and it is a lot of work, but at this place ...
Ok end rant ...



Being perfect at classroom management isn't possible. Being consistent at it is what you should be aiming for.

I think many school owners/foreign teacher managers/DoS have the notion that classroom management is about keeping the students happy.

The school I'm at now has a policy that bans removing students from the classroom. If I have to toss a kid, the Chinese teachers will not help me in anyway. They'll sit there looking terrified knowing I trying to take a huge dump in the school's wheaties.

I love teaching kids. It's a lot of energy, but if the school isn't going to allow me to remove problems from the class, I need to remove myself from the school.

Which I'll be doing at the end of my contract. Another deciding factor is I want to be back in management myself. I think I decent at it, certainly not a super-manager, but I know what's what. I view my job as the guy who holds the poop umbrella over the teachers. I hold onto that thing with my dear life and make sure none of the uppermanagement's crap hits the teachers.

I keep my office door open for the teachers as well. Even when I was the foreign teacher manager I had a lot of chinese teachers bringing their problems to me. More than once I went into a chinese teacher's class at their request to sit with an completely off the wall student.

Bit of a long winded spiel, but Mr. Guercotti, I suggest to you, focus on being consistent rather than perfect. If you are doing that already, keep on keeping on.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mr. Scriptor.
I am consistent now. I was bad before, but now I am good. The problem is that here I cannot do anything right. They don't know the good I do and they could not care less. They only focus on the bad, and most of that they make up.

But you make good points: consistency, no one is perfect.

Hope I don't get fired! I just hope to finish outlining the text book before I get fired.

Very Happy
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litterascriptor



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guerciotti wrote:
Thanks Mr. Scriptor.
I am consistent now. I was bad before, but now I am good. The problem is that here I cannot do anything right. They don't know the good I do and they could not care less. They only focus on the bad, and most of that they make up.

But you make good points: consistency, no one is perfect.

Hope I don't get fired! I just hope to finish outlining the text book before I get fired.

Very Happy


Getting sacked by a crap school is more of a mark of pride. Just be prepared to go work in another province. Try to have someone friendly to you at the school write a letter for you telling everyone what a stand up fellow you are.

Be prepared to shackle yourself to the front desk in your underpants right before classes starts if they get sneaky about your release letter. Don't take any sass from them on that matter.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. I will not go without a release letter. I think the law requires them to give me the release letter?
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litterascriptor



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guerciotti wrote:
Right. I will not go without a release letter. I think the law requires them to give me the release letter?


There are laws and then there are dickhead bosses.

Sometimes dickhead bosses and the law seem not to see eye to eye.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 21 Oct 2010
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Location: Moving up the food chain!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

litterascriptor wrote:

I view my job as the guy who holds the poop umbrella over the teachers. I hold onto that thing with my dear life and make sure none of the uppermanagement's crap hits the teachers.


that is a very nice sentiment. at my school, there's no umbrella, but rather a funnel Very Happy
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