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ghost



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:26 am    Post subject: IQAMA expired, bank account blocked Reply with quote

Does anyone have any information on how to "unblock" a Saudi Bank account (in this case Riyadh Bank) once the account has been frozen because the holder of the account was unavoidably not able to return to Saudi before the expiration of the IQAMA?

I am now outside Saudi but still have the IQAMA in my possession, but not sure whether it would be better, or not, to send it back to the Saudi Government office responsible for issuing IQAMAS?

Did anyone here experience the same problem, but was subsequently able to open the account again?

This is a big issue because 6 years of severance pay + several salaries are at stake here, and I am getting conflicting advice from different sources. In addition I am responsible for 2 weeks of salary to the teacher (s) who replaced me during the last 10 days of the contract, as I was unable to return on time for those final two weeks. I would like to pay that teacher as soon as possible from the salary deposited (the salary was deposited in the Riyadh bank, before the short vacation, after which I was not able to return on time).

Did anyone return to Saudi on a "business visa" for example, with the ability to once again be able to use the account?

Another thought is - would there be a possibilty to "transfer" my Riyadh Bank account to another teacher at the university, as then the movement of funds might be possible again?

Finally, do you think there would be an advantage in basing myself in Bahrain, in order to try to get this issue resolved. I am guessing that Bahrain and Saudi have cordial relations, and the proximity might be advantageous? But perhaps not? I am assuming one can reside in Bahrain on a tourist visa.

Thanks in advance.

Ghost
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: IQAMA expired, bank account blocked Reply with quote

ghost wrote:
Does anyone have any information on how to "unblock" a Saudi Bank account (in this case Riyadh Bank) once the account has been frozen because the holder of the account was unavoidably not able to return to Saudi before the expiration of the IQAMA?

Do an Internet search on obtaining money from saudi bank iqama expired; the topic is discussed quite a bit.
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Gerund



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want or need an account in a Saudi bank. Considering how screwed up this country is and considering how incredibly easy it is to have your salary wired back to your home country and to use an ATM to take cash out of your account in that bank, what's the point?

Is it because you work for a Saudi company or ministry that deposits your salary in a Saudi bank? If I were in that situation, every pay day I'd be standing in line to get my money out and wire it home.

Why take the chance that some political or financial upheaval will block access to your funds? Even without that, anyone who has lived here for even a short time knows how prone they are to making a complete mess out of things--the OP's nightmare is a perfect example.

"Don't nervous, you get money someday inshallah." Yeah, right.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: IQAMA expired, bank account blocked Reply with quote

ghost wrote:
Does anyone have any information on how to "unblock" a Saudi Bank account (in this case Riyadh Bank) once the account has been frozen because the holder of the account was unavoidably not able to return to Saudi before the expiration of the IQAMA?

I am now outside Saudi but still have the IQAMA in my possession, but not sure whether it would be better, or not, to send it back to the Saudi Government office responsible for issuing IQAMAS?

Did anyone here experience the same problem, but was subsequently able to open the account again?

This is a big issue because 6 years of severance pay + several salaries are at stake here, and I am getting conflicting advice from different sources. In addition I am responsible for 2 weeks of salary to the teacher (s) who replaced me during the last 10 days of the contract, as I was unable to return on time for those final two weeks. I would like to pay that teacher as soon as possible from the salary deposited (the salary was deposited in the Riyadh bank, before the short vacation, after which I was not able to return on time).

Did anyone return to Saudi on a "business visa" for example, with the ability to once again be able to use the account?

Another thought is - would there be a possibilty to "transfer" my Riyadh Bank account to another teacher at the university, as then the movement of funds might be possible again?

Finally, do you think there would be an advantage in basing myself in Bahrain, in order to try to get this issue resolved. I am guessing that Bahrain and Saudi have cordial relations, and the proximity might be advantageous? But perhaps not? I am assuming one can reside in Bahrain on a tourist visa.

Thanks in advance.

Ghost


Ghost here is a proposal for you:

I assume you still have a friend/colleague in your Saudi ex-workplace (preferably a Saudi friend or an expat who can speak Arabic)

1. Write a letter of Procuration for your friend in Saudi giving him the permission to withdraw your money from the Bank, and to sign on your behalf for any legal requirement. The letter must be certified by a lawyer in your country of residence, then translated in Arabic and certified with the Saudi embassy/consulate in your country of residence.

2. Write another letter explaining why you did not return to Saudi Arabia, including your proof/evidence of any court/police judgment for your case. Translate this letter as well and certify with a lawyer plus the Saudi embassy/consulate.

3. Send both letters plus any other related documents to your friend/colleague in Saudi Arabia, and ask him to finish the process by contacting your ex-employer and the Bank to resolve the issue of your money.

I think if you follow the above steps, your problem will be solved (InshAllah), but you know with the Saudi administration, you have to be very patient and take step by step until you get your rights.

The Saudi labour laws give you the right to get your salary and benefits if you provide the evidence for your case, it is a matter of time only.

BTW if you have your Riyadh bank' Master/Visa/Card, you might be able to withdraw the money from a cash point in your country. Did you tried it?

Good luck and please let me know for your progress.
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teacherwhy16?



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it because you work for a Saudi company or ministry that deposits your salary in a Saudi bank? If I were in that situation, every pay day I'd be standing in line to get my money out and wire it home.


Yes. Many companies in KSA do a deposit into a Saudi bank. If you have followed a thread re: Ghost, you would know that he/she has not been in Saudi for reasons outside of his/her control, and therefore may be stuck due to company regs. If you are out for too long, this is what happens. My bank account notified me last week that my bank account was locking up (also Riyadh bank). Thankfully, I am long gone with my money. However, I had to transfer it all out before leaving, as my employer did direct deposit for anyone on an Iqama.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gerund wrote:
I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want or need an account in a Saudi bank. Considering how screwed up this country is and considering how incredibly easy it is to have your salary wired back to your home country and to use an ATM to take cash out of your account in that bank, what's the point?

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Once your Iqama is issued the company that employs you has to send your salary to a Saudi bank.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Once your Iqama is issued the company that employs you has to send your salary to a Saudi bank.


I work for an American company, and my salary is direct deposited to my bank in the US, so that clearly isn't always true, but even when this is the case, it seems obvious that you should remove your money from that Saudi bank and get it out of the country ASAP.
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Makkah



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gerund wrote:
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Once your Iqama is issued the company that employs you has to send your salary to a Saudi bank.


I work for an American company, and my salary is direct deposited to my bank in the US, so that clearly isn't always true, but even when this is the case, it seems obvious that you should remove your money from that Saudi bank and get it out of the country ASAP.


Obviously not true if your contract is with an entity registered in the US.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Bank account frozen but able to use Riyadh credit card Reply with quote

The strange thing is that my bank account at the Riyadh Bank was frozen after my IQAMA expired around September 26, and I was not able to return to Saudi Arabia through no fault of my own. For that reason, I was not able to go through the final exit procedures on time.

I would like to go back to Saudi to sort out my financial affairs, but is there any way to do this if the original IQAMA has expired? I still have the IQAMA in my possession, though, although it has expired.

The strange thing is that I am still able to use my Riyadh Bank Titanium Master Card, and was even able to make a cash withdrawal as well as pay for a couple of hotel bills.

Does anyone have any advice on this and whether it is 'safe' to use the Riyadh Bank credit card, or would it best be to avoid using it?

Thanking you for any advice you may have.

Ghost
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not based on any knowledge of legalities or Saudi, but since it is the same bank, I assume that they deduct the monthly payment from your account. Personally I would be deducting the max through an ATM until my account was empty. But not one halala more...

Then you have no need to try to get into the country.

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desertdawg



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please take the time to read. He's using a credit card not a debit card.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a friend who exited a country and didn't intend to return. He maxed out his credit card from that country.

He was pursued by international debt collectors.

If your bank account is frozen, I don't see how you could use it to pay off your credit card. My friend avoided paying back anything on his credit card, but lives in fear of being caught. These agencies can be clever and cause problems with you getting visas and also contacting employers.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: Bank account frozen but able to use Riyadh credit card Reply with quote

ghost wrote:


I would like to go back to Saudi to sort out my financial affairs, but is there any way to do this if the original IQAMA has expired? I still have the IQAMA in my possession, though, although it has expired.



Come back on a tourist visa, which they now have.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

desertdawg wrote:
I had a friend who exited a country and didn't intend to return. He maxed out his credit card from that country.

He was pursued by international debt collectors.

My friend avoided paying back anything on his credit card, but lives in fear of being caught.
How? International Debt Collector, never heard of one. Using a credit card is not fraudulent. Also they would have to have a judge in your own country give a court order to your bank to wire the money back. Unless your talking about huge amounts of money, it's not going to happen, if it can even happen at all.
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