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Karitos
Joined: 05 Oct 2010 Posts: 55
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:43 pm Post subject: CV Design for Saudi |
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For those of you who have successfully gained employment in Saudi, do you have any recommendations for putting together CVs for ESL jobs there?
I'm not so much referring to the content of the CV, but rather the design of the CV. I.e., are employers there likely going to be encouraged to review a CV if it's a bit more modern (not crazy with graphics or anything, just more modern)? Or is it better to go with a straight black and white CV with nothing particularly unique about how it appears? Is putting a small picture on the CV a good idea?
Any other tips appreciated. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: CV Design for Saudi |
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Focus on content and not on catchy fonts and layout; a basic straight-forward, no-frills, error-free CV will do. Only include a photo on the CV if stated in the job ad.
Keep in mind there are teachers from so many nationalities working in the country's educational system----employers see a variety of CV styles. Besides, depending on the employer, the people reviewing CVs are likely to be diverse as well. |
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BillyBaddusky
Joined: 23 Aug 2014 Posts: 20
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:31 am Post subject: |
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I agree with VS about content. HR and recruiting departments are constantly flooded with CVs. Be succinct without being vague. Try not to pad your CV and make sure you have certificates or letters of recommendation (preferably original documents) from all jobs listed on your CV. If you are a direct hire, HR will look at your experience and match that against references and certificates. A contractor might not bother themselves with verification. In some cases they just need warm bodies.
I can only suggest my format because it works for me.
Mine is formatted with name and contact info center margin on top -- 12 pt font, name only in bold. Maybe a photo. Keep the font consistent either all serif or sans serif. Calibri, Arial or Times New Roman.
Left margin for everything else, drop it down to 11 pt. Headings in bold-- EDUCATION AND PROFESSIONAL TEACHING QUALIFICATIONS and EXPERIENCE ,EMPLOYMENT HISTORY,PUBLICATIONS and PAPERS and maybe consider adding a hobby or other activities that require personal initiative, dedication and leadership like running marathons or being captain a sports team (though you could save this for a brief mention in your cover letter). Remember that CVs are glanced at. Try to keep it to one page. I have 25 years experience and I still fit it on one page.
Cover letters are important. Also keep that concise. Format the cover letter as you would a formal business letter, your name and contact info at top, right margin. The recipients name, job title and address left margin. Try to address it to a recipient, not to whom it concerns. One or two paragraphs. I'd mention why you want to live here. That generally comes up in interviews as in why would anyone want to live here?
You might stand out if you add a Youtube link to a video CV. Since you will Email your CV, the link will be clickable and the video CV online might give you an edge.
Hope this helps. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Left margin for everything else, drop it down to 11 pt. Headings in bold-- EDUCATION AND PROFESSIONAL TEACHING QUALIFICATIONS and EXPERIENCE ,EMPLOYMENT HISTORY,PUBLICATIONS and PAPERS and maybe consider adding a hobby or other activities that require personal initiative, dedication and leadership like running marathons or being captain a sports team (though you could save this for a brief mention in your cover letter). |
Joelkaki:
Unless you're applying for a position as Summer Camp Activities Leader, I suggest leaving out info on hobbies and such. The last sections of your CV could include one for memberships in professional organizations relevant to TESOL (e.g., TESOL Arabia), and another for your Arabic language proficiency level. As mentioned on your thread six months ago about Arabic skills, that should go at the end of your CV unless Arabic-English bilingualism is a requirement of the position. |
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Karitos
Joined: 05 Oct 2010 Posts: 55
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:18 am Post subject: |
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nomad soul wrote: |
Joelkaki:
Unless you're applying for a position as Summer Camp Activities Leader, I suggest leaving out info on hobbies and such. The last sections of your CV could include one for memberships in professional organizations relevant to TESOL (e.g., TESOL Arabia), and another for your Arabic language proficiency level. As mentioned on your thread six months ago about Arabic skills, that should go at the end of your CV unless Arabic-English bilingualism is a requirement of the position. |
Thanks for all the above tips and this information as well.
I was planning to include Arabic proficiency in the final section of the CV. Let me ask another question: if I were to have a meeting now with someone about possible future employment (i.e., next August), would you put CELTA on the CV with a note that I will be taking/completing it in the next 2 months (anticipated Date XYZ)? Or would you just leave it out?
I may have a couple meetings via a few random circumstances. They aren't job interviews, but I wouldn't be surprised if they asked for a CV, and I'd like to make sure they know I will have CELTA (assuming I pass of course) prior to actually coming to work.
Would it be better just to leave it off, and then explain in the meeting that I will complete it before any actual interview and work beginning? |
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BillyBaddusky
Joined: 23 Aug 2014 Posts: 20
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Regarding hobbies and interests --
http://tinyurl.com/lfhtzg6
Something to consider, as I mentioned. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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However, some points to also consider:
- There's a cultural factor involved. Expecting foreign CV reviewers in non-Anglophone countries to appreciate and see value in hobbies or activities as "Captain of the Lubbock, Texas, championship bowling league," or "Played the lead role of 'Bert' in my high school's musical of 'Mary Poppins' (umpteen years ago)," or "Toured as a professional poker player in Las Vegas," whatever, aren't likely to register as anything transferable or relevant. In fact, it may even be distracting and off-putting to some potential employers based on their own assumptions and biases.
- What about female applicants? Does that mean that women seeking work in KSA should play it safe and not list "masculine" or "haram" hobbies or activities like bungee jumping, beach volleyball, aerial gymnastics, or monster-truck racing on their CV, but instead, should indicate shopping, texting friends, more shopping, and cooking family meals? Seriously.
- Most of those CV advice websites state that including hobbies and interests can 1) make the job applicant appear interesting and personable; and 2) indicate transferable skills such as leadership, team collaboration, creativity, yada yada... That might be fine for someone fresh out of university with zippo TEFL experience, but frankly, the better employers in KSA aren't going to be interested in a newbie. However, an experienced teacher should be able to show proof of their leadership, teamwork, etc., within their professional work experience versus indicating these skills solely in the context of a hobby or activity X years past. In other words, it's a red flag if you have great transferable skills from hobbies and activities but never used them within a professional work situation. Not cool. Obviously, if these skills were utilized in a professional association related to education, training, TESOL... then yes, this info should be included but not with hobbies and erroneous activities. Additionally, it's not difficult to interject some personality on one's CV and/or cover letter. For example, I have a section at the end of my CV that lists all the countries outside the US that I've lived in since birth (5 countries by age 14 and more afterwards). That section usually gets mentioned (one interviewer said I was like the Aramco kids) and if it doesn't, I bring it up during the interview because it ties into my cultural awareness and ability to adapt to different cultures. I've also included an interesting quote about teaching in a cover letter, which had caught the attention of my interviewer.
Point is, it's not hard to include something unique or eye-catching on a CV without resorting to wasting space with hobbies and irrelevant activities and possibly risk turning off potential employers. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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As a sometime-employer (though not for the ME), I'd say please skip the hobbies. We really don't care, and for ME jobs, the hobbies one has enjoyed in the West are all-too-likely to be considered negatively anyway.
Here's an interesting bit of research result we use in our context - it's illuminating as regards putting any sort of 'optional' information on a CV.
http://forumblog.org/2014/11/what-recruiters-look-your-CV-resume/?utm_content=bufferca165&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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I was planning to include Arabic proficiency in the final section of the CV. Let me ask another question: if I were to have a meeting now with someone about possible future employment (i.e., next August), would you put CELTA on the CV with a note that I will be taking/completing it in the next 2 months (anticipated Date XYZ)? Or would you just leave it out? |
The CELTA is relevant, and in your case I would put it there along with the expected completion date. |
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cmp45

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Nomad and Spiral's advice.
Yes for jobs in KSA, keep the hobbies off the CV, unless there is some sort of connection to the job you're applying for. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I would add myself to the don't include hobbies.
As to the future CELTA, I wouldn't put it on the CV, but mention that you are enrolled for X course in Y country on such and such a date - in the cover letter.
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weigookin74
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 265
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Good info. |
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