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Enduro
Joined: 27 Aug 2014
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 Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:59 pm Post subject: Shane English School, Chengdu??? |
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I've been offered a job with Shane English School in Chengdu.
However, I can't find a single thing on the internet.
The information sounds good with the exception of 100 minute classes.
Seems a bit much. I've taught 90 minute classes and that was exhausting.
Could have been because they smartassed spoiled Korean middle school girls. Anyway, the pay is 9000rmb for 20 hours plus 2000rmb housing.
Being a newbie to the China game, how does that sound for pay and accommodation.
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drjtrekker
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SH_Panda
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Shane schools are generally pretty poor. I know a few teachers who have lasted more than a year at a Shane school (and even enjoyed it), but overall I'd say they aren't worth the risk. It's all about profits and they tend to treat foreign teachers like crap.
When you say 20 hours, does that include office hours, or is that just classes? If that's just classes, 9000 isn't great. Also I'd imagine that 2000 for housing won't get you too much in Chengdu.
Bear in mind too that although they may be offering 2000 per month for an apartment, it's possible they won't give you that up front or every month. They might give you at at the end of your contract. |
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Listerine
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Guy I know at Shane gets farmed out to public schools a few mornings a week for "promotion". I was looking at their facebook page - loads of dress up days....Christmas concerts, school birthdays, Halloween etc. that seemed to end up a significant number of times with the guy teachers being forced to don make up, skirts and do a dance performance for the students. Yikes.
Another one of these chain schools however meaning not all are created equal. |
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Enduro
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I said new to CHINA not new to teaching. I've been teaching in SK for 12 years and aam thoroughly burned out on this black hole.
I figured that since I don't know the lay of the land there yet, I'll just have to take a regular run of the mill job until I get things sorted out.
I have an interview with Menten Nanjing tomorrow, so I'll see how that goes. |
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shaka
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Whenever I see ads for Shane English I can only think of the colossal idiot I knew in high school who bore the name.
I would rather work for Cletus English. |
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Markness
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Location: Chengdu
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| shaka wrote: |
Whenever I see ads for Shane English I can only think of the colossal idiot I knew in high school who bore the name.
I would rather work for Cletus English. |
I don't know why I found this so hilarious. |
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water rat
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Markness wrote: |
| shaka wrote: |
Whenever I see ads for Shane English I can only think of the colossal idiot I knew in high school who bore the name.
I would rather work for Cletus English. |
I don't know why I found this so hilarious. |
I guess you know that Cletus is the hillbilly character on The Simpsons. I knew the actual man Shane Lipscomb back in the day. He was only in the greater Tokyo area then. And he is a kind of British Cletus himself. He's just another piece of white trash, a dirty white boy from England some where who got lucky being in Japan at the right time to start an ESL empire. Sure he has some business acumen and native intelligence, but what he knew about teaching English you could put in an egg basket. All right, maybe I really don't know what he personally knew about teaching English. I do know it was and is all about the money with him. Not uncommon among business men, but reprehensible nonetheless. Be assured that if you work for Shane anywhere in Asia or any where else he spreads his tentacles, he is not concerned for your welfare. You can be replaced. |
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isitts
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Enduro wrote: |
I said new to CHINA not new to teaching. I've been teaching in SK for 12 years and aam thoroughly burned out on this black hole.
I figured that since I don't know the lay of the land there yet, I'll just have to take a regular run of the mill job until I get things sorted out.
I have an interview with Menten Nanjing tomorrow, so I'll see how that goes. |
What kind of school did you work for in SK? Public, or hagwon? If, the latter, Shane probably wouldn't be a huge difference. But if you were at a PS, it can be a rude awakening switching to a hagwon (or buxiban, for this forum).
China does have public school positions that pay comparably to what Shane is offering you...at least in Beijing. With your 12 years experience, you should qualify to work there.
I didn't work at Shane in China, I worked at one Taiwan. They're a franchise school, so how good it is can depend on the boss you work for. Shane, itself (I doubt this varies much between branches), had a decent curriculum and methodology, so it wasn't too difficult to plan for lessons. But 90 minute classes were the norm. (Though, with their curriculum and materials, that 90 minutes is easily filled.)
Things to make note of (or check if it's different in China's branches); you are paid hourly at Shane, which is fine if you work enough hours...not so much if you don't. But at least there are no office hours. The other thing is, and it may be different in China, but my classes were right on top of each other, no breaks between classes, not even 5 minutes. And they could work you five straight hours like that before being required to give you a 30 min break. So basically, you plan all your classes before the first one starts, knock down your classes, go home. Good in its own way, but it was exhausting.
My school didn't make me do promotional events, but it was in my contract, so they could have if they'd wanted to.
Ultimately, though, that was the first and last time I worked at a buxiban/hagwon. I think I would sooner take a lower salary at a public school and do private lessons outside work if I was in China than do a buxiban again.
Anyway, hope that helps some. |
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likwid_777
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| 12 years in Korea? Not that I've been there, but your name seems pretty apt. |
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