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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:38 am    Post subject: Alcohol ban getting closer? Reply with quote

From today's Times of Oman: http://www.timesofoman.com/News/43656/Article-Omans-Majlis-Al-Shura-to-debate-curbs-on-serving-liquor-to-citizens
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1st Sgt Welsh



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem I often have with those who believe and follow the practices of revealed religions is that they don't seem happy unless other people believe and follow these practices too. One of the first things I looked into when researching Oman was whether or not they allowed booze. Just for the record, alcohol is not a big part of my lifestyle (I might go out for a few drinks maybe once or twice a month - when I'm away on holidays I usually drink more though), but, for the Gulf, I see it as a barometer for how tolerant that society is. If Oman is going to start implementing a series of laws motivated by religion [I don't buy that they are considering banning alcohol primarily for health reasons] that curtail the liberty of non-Muslim expatriates then, speaking for myself, I might as well move to Saudi. Similar restrictive lifestyle, but, at least over in the Magic Kingdom I could make better money.
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Tazz



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as they don't withdraw the liquor permit and provide the shops that I can buy from-it's ok for me. happy to drink at home with mates watching the footie. Some sad and sleazy places selling alcohol here that, quite frankly-should be closed down! [Nightclub at Al Wadi hotel in Sohar, for example.]
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st Sgt Welsh wrote:
[I don't buy that they are considering banning alcohol primarily for health reasons]

I think that it is mainly to try to stop Omanis from drinking. I don't think 90% of Omanis care what expats do as long as they don't have to deal with the negatives (drunk driving... drunks on the street... brawls...).

The problem is actually enforcing the existing laws and if they try prohibition, I doubt it will work any better, though I expect that it would affect the expats by making it difficult to get safe affordable alcohol.

I never had a liquor license, so I wouldn't have noticed.

VS
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1st Sgt Welsh



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
1st Sgt Welsh wrote:
[I don't buy that they are considering banning alcohol primarily for health reasons]

I think that it is mainly to try to stop Omanis from drinking. I don't think 90% of Omanis care what expats do as long as they don't have to deal with the negatives (drunk driving... drunks on the street... brawls...).


I have heard of two incidences in Salalah in the last week where people, who have the authority to OK the paperwork on liquor licenses, have refused to do so. The talk on the street is that the English Department head at Dhofar University will not sign the liquor license forms for any of his expat, non-Muslim teaching staff because he is "very religious". The other was a police officer at the CID who wouldn't even look at my friend's completed forms two days ago, based on the excuse he was not accompanied by an Omani (which is in no way a requirement). As to why he wouldn't allow my friend's application to be processed, I can only guess, but my friend suspects it was due to religious sensibilities.

veiledsentiments wrote:

The problem is actually enforcing the existing laws and if they try prohibition, I doubt it will work any better, though I expect that it would affect the expats by making it difficult to get safe affordable alcohol.


Agreed.
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Geronimo



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morocco has some beautiful beaches, too..
http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2014/12/145799/moroccans-consume-131-million-liters-of-alcohol-per-year/ Cool

Whilst not a statistician, I believe that the amount of 131 million liters is the total amount consumed by all Moroccans - i.e. not per capita.

I can afford to quip because I live in Al Ain, on the other side of the fence (where the sand is always oranger)!
What's that noise I can hear? Oh, yes! Local hoteliers rubbing their hands together in glee at the prospect of more profits!

But there is a serious side to this matter...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/11263765/UKs-key-Gulf-ally-Oman-faces-catastrophe-from-Opec-oil-price-war.html

Geronimo
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st Sgt Welsh wrote:
The problem I often have with those who believe and follow the practices of revealed religions is that they don't seem happy unless other people believe and follow these practices too. One of the first things I looked into when researching Oman was whether or not they allowed booze.
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I don't buy that they are considering banning alcohol primarily for health reasons.

That was the first thing you researched? Tolerance aside, Oman is, first and foremost, an Islamic country. Period. And as a guest in the country, you're expected to adjust to the cultural environment---not the other way around.

Regardless of how you feel about the proposed ban, alcohol abuse/alcoholism is a real health issue---one that the Omani government has the right to be concerned about.

veiledsentiments wrote:
I think that it is mainly to try to stop Omanis from drinking. I don't think 90% of Omanis care what expats do as long as they don't have to deal with the negatives (drunk driving... drunks on the street... brawls...)

Agreed. Besides, those expats who may find it harder to purchase booze will figure out a workaround. Otherwise, they certainly won't die if they have to do without it.
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