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awardtour · Joined: 19 Sep 2014 Posts: 13

Don't worry, ICEAT have got this...3 days later.

ESL104 · Joined: 27 Sep 2014 Posts: 108

And you guys put up with this shit for $45k USD a year?

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

ESL
Tell us about your own experiences in KSA.

lcanupp1964 · Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Posts: 381

Ok Mister "State the Obvious", I put up with all this crap because I have no other choice. If I was going to write a book about how the average person ended up over here, it would be titled, "Plan C. How My Big Mouth and Non-Conformist Ways Landed Me in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia".

Do you really think most of us want to be here?

Dysfunctional (and sometimes very capable) people come here. If another person ever tells you that he/she is over here because they wanted to experience the wonderful Arab culture, they are full of the brown stuff. I feel some of the "old timers" might want to disagree with my opinion, but deep down inside, they know that there is some truth in what I write. The expectation are those wanting to come over for purely religious reasons. If I was such a great university instructor, I would be teaching at a state university in the U.S. I know what my weakness are at this point in my life; the only good thing about getting older. Because I’m a little wiser, I have found a way to help compensate myself for making mistakes in my past professional life – a second chance if you will. My choices were limited, faced with having to take huge cuts in pay and being locked out of the writing positions that I would have been hired for five years prior. Teaching ESL has saved me. It is the best way to make the most amount of money in the shortest amount of time. KSA is the number one country in the world for making the most money in the ESL game. KSA is also the number one "hardship tour" in the world for ESL teachers - the reason it pays so well. After 14 years of teaching ESL in eight different countries, I know this is true. I'm trying to hang on for as long as I can.

We are here for the money and we have the strength to carry on.

BTW, I make a hell of a lot more than $45k a year – my take home pay after I’ve paid all my bills here and back home is more than 45K a year. I'm going to go home after all this, pay cash for a house and a car and spend a few months in the state of CO trying out the local produce while not having to worry about working for anybody else ever again. Every time this hard, hard place makes me want to quit, I think about that.

Instead of sending short troll-like blasts about how dumb we are and how smart you are, why not be thankful that you are not over here? I hope you don't screw up your life in such a way that you are forced to come here. Be happy and don't be bitter for us.

Now that someone has explained to you that we are not as stupid, foolhardy, and misguided as you have assumed, maybe you can cut us a little slack and get the “F” off your high horse.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Not many winners come to KSA. Most people come here because they screwed up somehow. Certainly that was the case with me. BUT I made the best of it and.......you know KSA when you are sober can be okay !