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CVN-76
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 Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:43 pm Post subject: Being Pestered by Saudi Recruiters |
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| The employers must be getting really desperate in the KSA for teachers these days. Considering the salaries have dropped at least 20% in 10 years at a lot of the old standbys, it's no surprise I've gotten at least 25 job alerts and probably 12 offers in one week. I think that is a record. And this is during the present atrocious economy in the west. People seem to prefer living under bridges homeless than work in Saudi. Leave me alone, Saudi recruting machine. I'm not going to work in Saudi for the going salaries. Give me 8500 USD a month, provide me a fully furnished apartment, guarantee me no layoffs during the contract period, and guarantee me no more than 20 teaching hours a week, at least 2 months' paid vacation per year, and no more than 20 students per class and we might be able to work something out. For anything less, quit bothering me. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Not many paying that high ! |
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CVN-76
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| If any were hiring that paid that much, I wouldn't work for them. There would be something wrong with them somehow, as truly good jobs don't need adverts. I want to go to work at places that aren't hiring, as nobody ever quits or gets fired at those places. Or disappears in the night, never to be seen again. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| So you won't go even if they offer you that ? You sound like Groucho Marx giving his thoughts about clubs that would accept him as a member ! |
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CVN-76
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I know they won't ever offer that. At least those who regularly advertise and I would know about from halfway 'round the globe. Maybe I should demand 10,000 a month. Except I've been told not to even accept that. |
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CVN-76
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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The TESOL Catch-22
If they are hiring, I don't want to work for them. They are hiring for a reason, and that reason probably isn't good.
If they aren't hiring, I want to work for them. But they aren't hiring, for no one ever quits or gets fired, as it's a truly good job, so I never get hired. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Being Pestered by Saudi Recruiters |
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| CVN-76 wrote: |
| The employers must be getting really desperate in the KSA for teachers these days. Considering the salaries have dropped at least 20% in 10 years at a lot of the old standbys, it's no surprise I've gotten at least 25 job alerts and probably 12 offers in one week. |
That's what happens when you put your information and CV on a generic, public job site. Besides, the better employers post their ads on their websites and/or do their recruiting and in-person interviewing at TESOL Arabia each March. |
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Makkah
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| If any were hiring that paid that much, I wouldn't work for them. There would be something wrong with them somehow, as truly good jobs don't need adverts. . |
Er...um...nothing wrong with my place I work in, pay is higher than what you wrote. Oh and I forgot, they advertised but seems that they won't be recruiting for a while, maybe mid to late 2015. |
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Yasuke
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen the same thing. I've found that recruiters tend to be looking for desperate people, offering low ball offers then returning with higher offers with contracts that is extremely exploitative, all while extolling the value of the exaggerated benefits.
Interesting scene. |
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ESL104
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Being Pestered by Saudi Recruiters |
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| CVN-76 wrote: |
| The employers must be getting really desperate in the KSA for teachers these days. Considering the salaries have dropped at least 20% in 10 years at a lot of the old standbys, it's no surprise I've gotten at least 25 job alerts and probably 12 offers in one week. I think that is a record. And this is during the present atrocious economy in the west. People seem to prefer living under bridges homeless than work in Saudi. Leave me alone, Saudi recruting machine. I'm not going to work in Saudi for the going salaries. Give me 8500 USD a month, provide me a fully furnished apartment, guarantee me no layoffs during the contract period, and guarantee me no more than 20 teaching hours a week, at least 2 months' paid vacation per year, and no more than 20 students per class and we might be able to work something out. For anything less, quit bothering me. |
This guy has it right. $8500 USD a month should be about the minimum a BA holder should expect to work in that dump of a country.
Think MA holders should be looking at $10,000 USD at least tbh.
$45k USD a year is an absolute insult to anyone with any qualification at all. That's the kind of salary a pot washer should be demanding if he has to live in Saudi. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| People in the Subcontinent are queuing up to give agencies money to get jobs that pay US$200 a month. |
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ESL104
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| People in the Subcontinent are queuing up to give agencies money to get jobs that pay US$200 a month. |
More fool them. |
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scot47
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ESL104
I should have figured that compassion would not be high on your list of qualities. |
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CVN-76
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Makkah wrote: |
Er...um...nothing wrong with my place I work in, pay is higher than what you wrote. Oh and I forgot, they advertised but seems that they won't be recruiting for a while, maybe mid to late 2015. |
I can assure you I will not be applying. |
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CVN-76
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Being Pestered by Saudi Recruiters |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
That's what happens when you put your information and CV on a generic, public job site. Besides, the better employers post their ads on their websites and/or do their recruiting and in-person interviewing at TESOL Arabia each March. |
Except my information and my CV aren't on any generic, public job sites. The recruiters have become so desperate they have resorted to actually exerting effort and digging a bit. |
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