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water rat

Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Posts: 1098 Location: North Antarctica
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever. China is horribly polluted and and the world's largest carcinogen. All true, but you know what ZT? No one cares to read anything you have to say any more after your allusions to cannibalism.You're an idiot. Go away! |
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creeper1
Joined: 24 Aug 2010 Posts: 481 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan
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likwid_777

Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I actually wouldn't be surprised if, in a country where gutter oil is rife, an unscrupulous cremation company might sell a cadaver to a restaurant for dirt cheap. In this case, there would probably have to be two willing parties in the transaction. It's very unlikely, though I wouldn't say impossible. Jeez, I hope that it hasn't ever happened. |
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bharrell
Joined: 25 Oct 2008 Posts: 102
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| There indeed is a serious shortage of marriageable fems in China. |
Not for us old middle aged guys. Women over 35 are plentiful. China can be hazardous to sexual frustration. |
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Scrabble King
Joined: 25 Dec 2014 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Its not just the air , but the water as well. Even half of the bottled water we buy is just tap water run through cheap filters that only remove particulate matter and not the dioxins, arsenic, mercury, or lead.
If you are asthmatic, definitely do not come to China! |
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RiverMystic
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 1986
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| Sadly, a second of my good Chinese friends is now battling very serious cancer at present. She went to Switzerland to do so. I doubt she will recover. She's in her mid thirties. My other Chinese friend died at 36 from cancer. Both from Beijing. |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Cancer is becoming more and more common.
Reminds me of the California cities of Benicia and Vallejo. Absurd cancer rates in those areas. Many blame it on the oil refineries.
My father inlaw and his brother both died last year from cancer. Was it the air, not likely where they are from and grew up, the water, maybe, the baijiu and smoking, maybe, the military service, maybe, China's "development," absolutely. |
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RiverMystic
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 1986
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Just got notice that my friend and her husband have been advised by her doctor to prepare for the end. In her last days.  |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Just got notice that my friend and her husband have been advised by her doctor to prepare for the end. In her last days.  |
I am truly sorry to hear that River. We might disagree in many areas, but that is not right. My point was not to deflate issues, but actually my thoughts are about why. Many 60-80 year olds are drinking the water, breathing the air, and in my mind that brings to question what younger people are doing that is different. The older people also live here, even older ones who smoke and drink baijiu.
Again, I do not want to put down your friends situation, but it is important to try to find out why. So far, as I have read, there is no clear answer as to why cancer rates are soaring. It is not a China specific problem and I think simplifying it as such should be rejected if we want to know what is going on. |
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drjtrekker
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 251
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:46 am Post subject: |
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wow, that sucks...
I keep wondering about this issue as well.
My Chinese in laws both in mid 50's, from a very industrial city...and both not in good health.
It's true that there may be other causes, but from what a lot of us know about this place, I would bet it's the pollution.
I now live in Sichuan, and the air is pretty bad where I'm at....and RARELY do I see anyone with a mask on.
When we tell people about the air, and our air filter in the house, and why we don't let our kid outside on these days...they go "Huh"?!?! |
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RiverMystic
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 1986
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| RiverMystic wrote: |
Just got notice that my friend and her husband have been advised by her doctor to prepare for the end. In her last days.  |
I am truly sorry to hear that River. We might disagree in many areas, but that is not right. My point was not to deflate issues, but actually my thoughts are about why. Many 60-80 year olds are drinking the water, breathing the air, and in my mind that brings to question what younger people are doing that is different. The older people also live here, even older ones who smoke and drink baijiu.
Again, I do not want to put down your friends situation, but it is important to try to find out why. So far, as I have read, there is no clear answer as to why cancer rates are soaring. It is not a China specific problem and I think simplifying it as such should be rejected if we want to know what is going on. |
We disagree frequently? Sorry, I've got a short memory. Seems to save me from holding grudges.
Not sure what caused my friend's cancer. My other friend drank and smoked far too much. He got liver cancer. Kept drinking right up till the end. He invited me and my wife out for a drink. We met him and his wife at the restaurant. He chose to wear a tank top which displayed his withered body covered with sores. It's was truly horrifying. |
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ZhonguoTong
Joined: 21 Dec 2012 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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I've been away and not able to post for awhile, but seems I struck a raw nerve mentioning cannibalism....
If you don't think it happens (commonly), you really don't know China. Actually, I personally would be less squeamish at the prospect of being passed human flesh than dog or cat (which by the way is sold at almost all supermarkets)
When it comes to making money, the Chinese will do ANYTHING, including discreetly overlooking irrelevant and silly western moral sensitivities, and if you think not, you REALLY don't know China.
Remember, "Anything with legs that's not a table, and anything with wings that's not an airplane." The keyword here is "anything".
One great dish you should try is 'Eat Three Squeals" (吃三尖叫)--other wise known as live rat embryos, but if you're just a lowly English teacher you won't be able to afford. Jab with chopsticks for first squeal, dip in sauce for second, munch down for third--bon appetit.
Are you really that simplistic, childish and naive that you can't or won't see reality as it really does exist in the world? |
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water rat

Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Posts: 1098 Location: North Antarctica
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| ZhonguoTong wrote: |
I've been away and not able to post for awhile, but seems I struck a raw nerve mentioning cannibalism....
If you don't think it happens (commonly), you really don't know China. Actually, I personally would be less squeamish at the prospect of being passed human flesh than dog or cat (which by the way is sold at almost all supermarkets)
When it comes to making money, the Chinese will do ANYTHING, including discreetly overlooking irrelevant and silly western moral sensitivities, and if you think not, you REALLY don't know China.
Remember, "Anything with legs that's not a table, and anything with wings that's not an airplane." The keyword here is "anything".
One great dish you should try is 'Eat Three Squeals" (吃三尖叫)--other wise known as live rat embryos, but if you're just a lowly English teacher you won't be able to afford. Jab with chopsticks for first squeal, dip in sauce for second, munch down for third--bon appetit.
Are you really that simplistic, childish and naive that you can't or won't see reality as it really does exist in the world? |
Hey, I saw this new product in the posh supermarket called 'Soylent Green'. It's quite tasty, and people have been lining up for it. What do you suppose that's made of?  |
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Fergie
Joined: 10 Feb 2015 Posts: 34 Location: The Middle Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| This is why I decided that my future will be in South China - which is still relatively clean. I am looking at Ningbo. |
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ZhonguoTong
Joined: 21 Dec 2012 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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I enjoyed my time in China and wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to stay. The food is much better than in the West, and it's probably healthier even though almost all of it is grown in highly polluted conditions. Chinese culture and society possess a gentle, harmonious and non threatening nature that is very appealing.
The biggest issue for those contemplating a long term stay is the danger posed by the perilous levels of toxicity in the air, water, soil and food, and it's a very serious problem. Also, a consideration for young people is that if you spend 10 or 15 years teaching English in China (or anywhere else), you won't be very well equipped to deal with the job market should circumstances warrant that you return to your home country, and you won't be accruing retirement benefits nor building equity in your own home.
Time flies much faster than one realizes, and it's very hard to start over at 35 with no skills, no money, and especially if by then you've acquired a serious health problem. |
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