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clyde
Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 52
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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People often ask me about my time (3 years) in Saudi. The conversation inevitable wanders towards what the worst part of living there was. The obvious guesses are the threat of violence against foreigners, or the barbaric mentality of the people there. Some people think that it is maybe the harsh climate or maniacal driving. For me it was the soul-destroying boredom. Saudi is literally the worst place on the planet for this kind of thing. Towards the end of my time, after I had been to each mall over 100 hundred times, I would just stay home, watch the walls and drool on myself. I live in Salalah Oman now. It is a fairly small little town, with only one mall, but there are many things to do. The people (natives and expats alike) are generally more pleasant and upbeat. It is by no means a roaring metropolis, but little things like seeing a movie, or walking on the beach, or, God forbid, having coffee with a girl, are perfectly normal things to do. Saudi reeeeeally needs to get its act together in this regards. You may think me capricious here, but the boredom is probably a big reason for many of the other unpleasant things about the Sandbox. |
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cmp45

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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There's no excuse to be bored. Sad, yes. Angry, yes. Depressed, yes. Crazy, yes. But there's no excuse for boredom, ever.” |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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clyde wrote: |
...little things like seeing a movie, or walking on the beach, or, God forbid, having coffee with a girl, are perfectly normal things to do. Saudi reeeeeally needs to get its act together in this regards. |
So you're saying you didn't know about these taboos prior to accepting the job offer? If these activities were so important to you, why did you stay for three years? |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Instead of "introverts," I think I would use the terms self-reliant and having a low need for outside distractions to provide one's entertainment.
Even before the Internet arrived in the Kingdom, books kept boredom at bay for me. After the Internet arrived, boredom was "virtually" impossible .
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Clyde,
Why should KSA change to suit you ? They have enough problems there without trying to accommodate a bunch of petulant Westerners with their unreal demands ! |
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Randall
Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 17
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:29 pm Post subject: Bored |
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I once worked and lived with a young EFL teacher fresh from grad school. We worked nine hour days and rode the same van back and forth. We were together from 5:30 am to 3:00 pm. When we got back to the villa, I just wanted to be left the hell alone and check my email. One day, he appeared at my doorway at 3:05 with the stimulating question, "Wassup?" He was the type who always had to be doing something, going somewhere, or playing a video game. He could not stand to be alone with his own thoughts (if any). He didn't last long. Don't go to KSA if you are that type. |
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auhruh
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 37
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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clyde wrote: |
People often ask me about my time (3 years) in Saudi. The conversation inevitable wanders towards what the worst part of living there was. The obvious guesses are the threat of violence against foreigners, or the barbaric mentality of the people there. Some people think that it is maybe the harsh climate or maniacal driving. For me it was the soul-destroying boredom. Saudi is literally the worst place on the planet for this kind of thing. Towards the end of my time, after I had been to each mall over 100 hundred times, I would just stay home, watch the walls and drool on myself. I live in Salalah Oman now. It is a fairly small little town, with only one mall, but there are many things to do. The people (natives and expats alike) are generally more pleasant and upbeat. It is by no means a roaring metropolis, but little things like seeing a movie, or walking on the beach, or, God forbid, having coffee with a girl, are perfectly normal things to do. Saudi reeeeeally needs to get its act together in this regards. You may think me capricious here, but the boredom is probably a big reason for many of the other unpleasant things about the Sandbox. |
Couldn't agree more. When I used to travel to Saudi on business, the only upside was that I could churn out training powerpoints and reports by the dozen every evening as there was absolutely nothing to do outside the hotel. When I went to Salalah on business I don't think I did any work beyond a couple of meetings. Great place, and can't wait to go back there. |
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natsume
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 409 Location: Chongqing, China
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a very good place to go to work on an online degree.
Or write a novel.
Or study a language. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Some Saudi students found a way to fill up their extra time...
Volunteering is way of life for a Saudi student in US
By Nicolla Hewitt, Saudi Gazette | December 26, 2014
Source: http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20141227228721
THE United States is home to one of the biggest philanthropists in the world — Microsoft founder Bill Gates — who gives away over $3 billion of his own money to projects around the world. He and his wife, Melinda, travel the world donating not just their money, but volunteering their time too, so they can give back to those in need. Volunteering is a huge pastime for many Americans, with about 62.6 million people volunteering through or for an organization at least once between September 2012 and September 2013.
Now there’s another volunteer that the US Bureau of Labor Statistics can add to the list — 22 year old Rasheed Al-Faris from Yanbu, near Jeddah. Rasheed is currently in his final year studying Biomedical Energy at the University of Hartford in Connecticut. Shortly after joining the Saudi student club on campus, he heard about an organization called “US to US,” which encourages Saudi students to volunteer their time to the local communities they are living in. It’s also a way for Americans to interact with people from Saudi Arabia that they may not otherwise have had a chance to meet.
In an interview with the Saudi Gazette, Rasheed said: “When I first heard about volunteering I was really unsure about it. I had never volunteered my time before, and I really wasn’t sure about doing something like this in public.” Not long after, Rasheed signed up for his first volunteering project — handing out water to runners in the 2013 Hartford Marathon. He was positioned at an area where runners knew to stop for a quick refreshing break. “I just couldn’t believe what a great feeling it was to see someone running toward me and that he really, really needed something from me. When I handed over the glass of water to the person in the marathon, and I saw the way he smiled at me because he was so happy I was giving them something, that smile was just amazing. It felt so good to be giving something back by way of the time I was donating,” said Rasheed.
Inspired by the way he felt as a volunteer, Rasheed quickly found out that the “US to US” organization was planning more events for Saudi students in their local communities. This time there were openings at a Food Bank in Hartford. A food bank is where poor homeless people in cities or towns in the United States can get a meal for free, as all the food is donated as a act of goodwill, and the people who prepare the food and serve it to those in need donate their time doing so.
For his second volunteer experience Rasheed invited some of his fellow students from Saudi Arabia to join him. Eight of them went along to pack up vegetables into small plastic bags as the food bank prepared meals for the hungry.
This experience was very different for Rasheed. “When I told people from the food bank that me and my friends were from Saudi Arabia they just couldn’t believe it. They were really, really shocked. The people said they always saw bad things on TV about Saudi Arabia, but because we were volunteering and helping others we know that we turned their bad thoughts about us into really good thoughts about Saudi people. It just felt so good to know that,” Rasheed told Saudi Gazette. His seven friends that joined him at the food bank felt exactly the same way. “We all knew we had such a positive impact with what we were doing.”
That’s good news too for communities in the United States that rely on volunteers, as a recent report by the Bureau of Labor Statistics said volunteer rates for both men and women (22.2 percent and 28.4 percent, respectively) declined in the year ending September 2013. That same report also said women continued to volunteer at a higher rate than men across all age groups, educational levels, and other major demographic characteristics.
Perhaps that’s why Rasheed Al Faris continues to volunteer. Just a few weeks ago an old man near the University of Hartford needed someone to remove all the leaves from his lawn. Winter was coming and he wanted them removed before it snowed. He couldn’t afford to pay someone to rake the leaves away, so Rasheed volunteered. “I always thought moving leaves would be easy, but it’s not. And it was so cold. But this was just so good for me to do. I had to rake the leaves away, put them into bags, and try and stay warm. The old man was watching me, and it felt so good that I could connect with him like this. At the food bank we didn’t really see the people, but now I was at his home trying to make it nice for him. Seeing him smile at me when all the leaves had gone was one of the best experiences of my life. It was just so good for me.”
So inspired by volunteering, Rasheed plans to encourage his family and friends in the Kingdom to do the same, telling Saudi Gazette: “We need to do more for others in Saudi Arabia, and create an environment where people become used to helping others. My friends and I are working on plans for what we are going to do when we go back after our studies. One of the first projects is to volunteer by making sure all the mosques are clean. Sometimes people don’t look after them, but we will. I also really want to get a group of us to visit old people who may be lonely. Just talking to them will make them happy. That’s why volunteering is so simple.”
With Rasheed’s enthusiasm and commitment, it sounds as though many people in Saudi Arabia will be inspired by the impact volunteering has had on him during his studies in the United States. Summarizing his time at the University of Hartford, he said, “I have had many, many classes. But the best lesson of all was learning how to volunteer. It’s an amazing experience.”
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Pikgitina
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 420 Location: KSA
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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It can help to get all possible entertainment options set up: OSN, good Wi-Fi or a 4G router, a VPN, Netflix. Lots of people also download or order from Amazon. Have a supply of books so when you're in the mood to read you have something available. Cook. Learn to cook. Go for walks (if you're in an area where that's possible). Go for coffee or a meal with mates or colleagues. Study Arabic or French or Spanish. Join a gym. Sign up for spinning or yoga or pilates classes. Spend some of that heard-earned money!
On the flip side, I do realise that once people get sucked into that oh-my-god-Saudi-sucks-and-everything-is-so-horrible-and-boring-here mindset, it can be really hard or impossible to snap out of it.
The weird thing is the ones with this mindset are oftentimes the ones who end up staying the longest. |
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Hatcher
Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 602
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Before I arrived in Saudi, I knew I would have to work hard to stay busy.
I did all the things such as the gym. Its good to stay out of the house as much as possible.
At the hospital, I met the prettiest Filipino nurse I ever saw. But that has to be resisted because if she was ever caught, her family suffers big.
I left the KSA and probably wont go back but if I do, it will be the east coast. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:51 am Post subject: |
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In that respect Saudi sounds great. It would be a good place to get a doctorate. If it weren't for the weather and schooling I would go there n |
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grahamb

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: Doctor NG |
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Not being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia might cramp your style, NG. You'd do better in the Emirates or Oman. Mind you, the heat's the same, with lots of humidity near the coast. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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KSA has different regions with very different weather. Even the desert rfegions are varied ! Try Abha for a really unusual climate.
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grahamb

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: Climate change |
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The same's true for Oman. Salalah, for example, can be incredibly humid, but the Khareef brings welcome relief. When the mist clears you can see lush vegetation, whereas on the other side of the Dhofar mountains everything's brown and bone dry; an amazing contrast. |
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