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IELTS examiner requirements in China
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andy afc



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:40 am    Post subject: IELTS examiner requirements in China Reply with quote

Hi, everyone, excuse me if this has topic has already been discussed, but I couldn't find it anywhere on the message-boards.

I am interested in becoming an IELTS examiner in China, but I am a little confused as to the requirements. I emailed The British Council directly but got a rather unhelpful and patronising reply from their recruitment office.

The job description says a Bachelor degree (I have this, plus a Master's from UK universities - not teaching related) and 3 years full time "relevant" adult English teaching are required. I have worked in Shanghai for 3.5 years, teaching adults full time for Web International English. Does this constitute "relevant" experience? The gist from the British Council seems to be "no", but they were rather unclear about it. If not, then what is "relevant" experience?

Also, I plan to study for Celta, but the IELTS job description says you need one year post Celta certification before you can become an IELTS examiner. Is this true? It seems rather stringent.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Best Regards,

Andy


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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andy afc wrote:
The job description says a Bachelor degree (I have this, plus a Master's from UK universities - not teaching related) and 3 years full time "relevant" adult English teaching are required. I have worked in Shanghai for 3.5 years, teaching adults full time for Web International English. Does this constitute "relevant" experience? The gist from the British Council seems to be "no", but they were rather unclear about it. If not, then what is "relevant" experience?

Also, I plan to study for Celta, but the IELTS job description says you need one year post Celta certification before you can become an IELTS examiner. Is this true? It seems rather stringent.

I suspect Web International English is considered a mediocre language mill by British Council standards. Internet reviews about the place mention outdated proprietary teaching materials and sometimes having to teach children. Also, see "Web International English, good?" (http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=68095). Additionally, requiring post-CELTA experience teaching adults isn't stringent. In fact, I interpret the BC's October 2014 ad as indicating a minimum of 3 years after the CELTA and not one year. Otherwise, it's unclear if you've been effective as a teacher those 3.5 years per BC standards. This relates to the CELTA's key supervised teaching practice component where you're observed and assessed teaching real students. In other words, the BC is very likely to only credit experience gained after the teacher has received and passed proper ESOL teacher training. Anyway, I can understand the BC's evasiveness at this point since you haven't yet formally applied for the position.
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vikeologist



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy - It's a job related to a qualification that they want to be beyond reproach. Yes, it's stringent. Every single part of the job is stringent. The British Council is very stringent.

I don't think working in a language mill would be a disqualification, but I can assure you that the standards for applying are the standards, and not everybody who does meet the standards and applies is successful. It's probably quite tough for them to find enough examiners who can do the job, but that's the way it is.

I was going to say that your OP shows that your OP shows you're not 'examiner material' but you know, there are lots of jobs and organisations that apply their procedures creatively. Trust me. IELTS isn't one of them.
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eihpos



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently qualified as an examiner and as vikeologist said, they are very stringent. I wouldn't be surprised if they have robots reviewing the application forms! I think your experience would be fine but they must have a CELTA or equivalent(mine was equivalent) I've heard that they are understaffed in their head offices which could explain why their reply was unhelpful. I had to chase up my application as I hadn't heard anything in 2 weeks. Once I did, they invited me for the interview.

Try the application anyway though as I have also heard that they are desperate for people with the proper visa. I'm going to give it a go at weekends for a while but I think too much of it, along with dealing with the BC, could crack one up!
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andy afc



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice. The posts don't shed the BC in a great light- it sounds like a pretty grave organisation to work for. Happy New Year to all.
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eihpos wrote:
...and as vikeologist said, they are very stringent. ... as I have also heard that they are desperate for people with the proper visa.

And therein lies a story...

stringent...mercy
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seanophil



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone been employed in a full time position?
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seanophil wrote:
Has anyone been employed in a full time position?


I haven't, but I knew someone who had a girlfriendfriend whose roommate's boyfriend knew someone who was. He said it was great.
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seanophil



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Powell wrote:
seanophil wrote:
Has anyone been employed in a full time position?


I haven't, but I knew someone who had a girlfriendfriend whose roommate's boyfriend knew someone who was. He said it was great.


I can't tell if that's a joke or not...
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seanophil



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Powell wrote:
seanophil wrote:
Has anyone been employed in a full time position?


I haven't, but I knew someone who had a girlfriendfriend whose roommate's boyfriend knew someone who was. He said it was great.


I can't tell if that's a joke or not...
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toteach



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A previous colleague took up work as an examiner. When she aged out of China, she was given the opportunity to work as one in North America. She's been with them about 4 years now and continues to enjoy the position.
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seanophil



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toteach wrote:
A previous colleague took up work as an examiner. When she aged out of China, she was given the opportunity to work as one in North America. She's been with them about 4 years now and continues to enjoy the position.


That's nice to know. I'd like to think it would lead to work with the BC in my home country if needed.
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theoriginalprankster



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a fantastically tedious job (examining), and some of the strangest people I've met in China work as examiners.

Plenty think they've topped the TEFL pile because they examine.

I walked away from the job (and the nutters), quite happily a while back.

Still certified for another year, so can examine in other countries, ie. a choice of 160 other countries.

Skip if possible. Do if desperate, and have zero personality.

Highlight of the job: examining in Hainan for a weekend, and staying at the Sheraton Resort in Haikou - good fun!
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asiannationmc



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
and some of the strangest people I've met in China work as examiners.


Word!
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seanophil



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair though, there are weirdos everywhere in China. And the full time position is 24k for 15 days work. Not to be sniffed at. It would be hard to make that without proper teaching certification in China.
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