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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I regularly had books, DVDs and CDs sent to me by post. They arrived. Sometimes slowly.

I do not believe the story about burning mail. We should look for another explanation of the charred items received by one poster. Use your imagination !

I digress. Pleased to hear that the OP solved her problem. Good luck to her !
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simplicity wrote:
I realize living and working in the Middle East will have it's unique challenges. By saying that I'd traveled and worked abroad a lot, I wasn't trying to be arrogant and say it'll be easy. I should've explained... I will start another thread (or read other threads/websites) with regards to the challenges of living/working in the Middle East. I was just trying to keep this thread specific to accessing medication so we didn't get sidetracked.

Glad to hear you got your meds issue resolved.

I didn't think you were being arrogant---more like a bit idealistic. Plus, work/life in ultra-conservative KSA is not like the rest of the Middle East, and since your job possibilities are pretty much limited to the Kingdom, that's where your research should be.

I also suggest your job search focus on those ads that state teaching positions in the larger cities in KSA. Contracting companies tend to have projects throughout the country and can decide to transfer you from one city to another---wherever there's a need. You definitely don't want to end up teaching in a university out in no man's land.
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lcanupp1964



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not writing about you (the OP) per se, but in general. I think you handled the comments well.

I think some of us (at times) try to "slap the cold, harsh water of reality" in the faces of some posters that have zero Middle Eastern experience regardless of the fact that they may be seasoned vets of other places in the world.

Maybe the reason is this: If they can't handle the comments of complete strangers, we wonder if that person can handle the real BS and stress that happens over here on an hourly basis.

I try never to pick on someone in a negative way unless he/she is trolling or acting like a jerk.

If people get so mad on this site and are so anal and obsessive compulsive that they strongly feel they must "fight the good fight" and try to have endless battles between other posters, maybe they are the kind of person that is not going to make it over here. If they are already in KSA, those are the ones I stay away from. They will implode soon.

Many of us teaching in KSA has had years of experience working and living in East Asia. Many of us have "cut our teeth" in places like Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan before finding our way towards the ME. I've taught in all three, so I hope I can give a "wiser" comparison to help posters better understand what they may be getting into.

They pay a lot in KSA for a very good reason.

I joke that there are four types of teachers that come to KSA:

A. The ones that stay 2 days because they either found a few bugs in their crappy, old apartment, or their feelings were hurt because no one picked them up from the airport. They leave in protest. They act like they need their panties starched and press before going to work each day.

B. The ones that stay within 90 days because they can't stop trying to compare how things should be done rather than adapting to the environment. They drive everyone crazy by moaning endlessly and are asked to leave.

C. The ones that barely hang on by the skin of their teeth and stay for only a one-year contact and never, ever comes back. Many drunks fall into this type. They move on to the next contract before they are found out.

D. The ones that can figure it out and stay for as long as they like.

For example, I went to work very early one day during my first week at KAU to print out a handout that I worked on the night before. I found out that the laser printer in the teachers' office was out of paper. I got so mad and upset. I ranted (to myself) for 30 minutes about how this places sucks and how, in the States, I would have never found a printer out of paper.

When I got off of work that day, I purchased three rims of paper and locked them in my desk drawer at work.

If you are the type of person that thinks, "that's a bunch of BS. I would never buy office supplies. It is the university's job to support the teachers", you will either not make it in KSA or you will suffer until you quit, or get canned. Either way, you will drive yourself and others around you crazy.

If you are the type of person that thinks it was a good way to avoid stress by taking control of how one reacts to stress, than you just might make it over here. Smile
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:


I do not believe the story about burning mail. We should look for another explanation of the charred items received by one poster. Use your imagination !


Could it be similar to the reason there is a big cut out square in the wallpaper at one of the Starbucks in Riyadh. Perhaps the Haia paid a visit.
Laughing


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zaazia



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:32 pm    Post subject: Medication Reply with quote

Ask the pharmaceutical company if the medication you are on is available in Saudi Arabia and if available where can you buy it from.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Medication Reply with quote

zaazia wrote:
Ask the pharmaceutical company if the medication you are on is available in Saudi Arabia and if available where can you buy it from.

Simplicity wrote:
Someone has sent me a PM saying that he/she was able to get the exact medications I'm on in KSA and accessed English speaking psychiatrists in the process. Problem solved.

It was resolved.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Medication Reply with quote

zaazia wrote:
Ask the pharmaceutical company if the medication you are on is available in Saudi Arabia and if available where can you buy it from.


Also you have to realize Saudi Arabia is essentially third world. The only medication that is going to be trustworthy is at a pharmacy in a hospital like German Saudi or another top Saudi hospital. I wouldn't buy anything from a pharmacy in a mall or down the street somewhere. Fakes that look very real in terms of packaging and the looks of the pill are everywhere in Asia and the rest of the third world. I heard one time that upwards of 90% of the pills in Thailand found in out of hospital pharmacies were fake. Saudi Arabia is not Thailand but I have seen medications from street pharmacies in Saudi Arabia that I thought were questionable, clearly not the same at all.
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know how easily insulin is picked up?

Can I show a UK prescription and buy there? If so, any idea on price? Do medical plans in Saudi cover chronic disease medicine?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem getting it as diabetes is common among Saudis... BUT... did your read this thread?

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109514

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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most pharmacies will sell you insulin without the hassle of a prescription. Some medical plans may not cover pre-existing conditions, but the one that I had, paid for chronic and pre-existing conditions.

Too many tightwads at that employer meant that the company withdrew from provision of medical insurance. The numbers prepared to pay for insurance fell to single figures (from a faculty of many hundreds !) Employees at KFUPM now rely on university clinic and Government Teaching hospital for medical treatment.

If you are working in the private sector you will not have that option.
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys.

I'm surprised just as I was in China that you can essentially walk in and buy a drug which can kill a human in an hour, but oh well.

Not sure what to do regarding that new chronic illness thing. In my 5 years in China I was never admitted for my diabetes, and back in the UK the only expense I've caused the NHS is there insistence on doing check ups to see what changes I've had in those five years.

I think I'll just go along with the medical and see.
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