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Value of IB experience.

 
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IB experience valuable?
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ryanlogic



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:56 pm    Post subject: Value of IB experience. Reply with quote

Whats up guys,

I'm currently teaching (without state certification) at a private school in the US as a social studies teacher, but I am aspiring to eventually teach overseas. I need to pay off my student loans, and I want to travel around the Middle East, so The Gulf seems like a good place to aim for.

Anyway, my school just became an IB school and I'm wondering how valuable it would be for me to teach IB classes somewhere down the line. I dont think I am ready or even qualified at the moment, so this is more of a casual question, but how valuable is IB teaching experience?

I am currently teaching non-honors track high school kids World History, American History II, and US government. Its a total drag because no one wants to be there. I also teach two instances of 8th grade American History, and its so much more stimulating for me. The kids are still living and breathing school so to speak, and for some reason I am much better able to captivate them.

The reason I ask is because I have to fill out a survey soon which will ask which classes/grade levels I am interested in teaching for next year. I actually prefer teaching middle school, but if IB is extremely valuable I should probably opt to remain at the highschool level or even request to teach only high school.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, IB experience would look good on the CV/resume, but even more important is a legitimate state teaching certificate.

Any chance of that?

VS
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say stick with what you're good at and try to excel there. Clearly, you've got a gift for working with middle schoolers that very few people have. Your ability to work effectively with this very difficult age group will open many doors for you down the road. If anything, you should be requesting more classes in that age group.

Should you apply for IB schools down the road, market yourself as one who can effectively prepare today's middle schoolers for future success in tomorrow's IB program. In the meantime, approach your teaching from that perspective at your current job.

Good luck!
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since the majority of posters on this site are EFL and not content teachers, you won't get a lot in the way of responses. Plus, most of us teach at the university level.

That said, you definitely need a state teaching license and a minimum 2 years of post-licensure experience in the US in order to compete for positions (IB and American curriculum) in international schools in the Gulf. Take a look at Teach Away to see the level of qualifications required and actual job opportunities in the region. International Schools Review is also a good site to post these types of questions.
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ryanlogic



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Yes, IB experience would look good on the CV/resume, but even more important is a legitimate state teaching certificate.

Any chance of that?

VS


Either way I plan to get certified... You may remember my earlier posts about pursuing a Master degree before heading overseas. I'm considering either M.Ed TESOL or MAT social studies. The MAT includes state certification, the M.Ed does not. I'm currently leaning towards M.Ed TESOL, in which case I would have to take night classes for ~6 months or take summer classes at the local Community college to get it... its an inconvenience but so is life, really.

I've received a few stern recommendations to stay away from a MAT program from people familiar with my ambitions and interests. Eventually I would like to work in administration or International Development and the M.Ed is broad. My undergraduate degrees prequalify me to teach social studies stateside (even more so after obtaining certification) so I am seeing less and less reason to lock myself into a "teaching degree."

Don't get me wrong, I see the practical value of the MAT. It would offer more in the way of actual teaching experience and so on.. I am just not sure that I only want to be a teacher for the rest of my life. I do however know that I have a passion for education, and that I want to work in this field as a career so I feel less apprehension pursuing the M.Ed.
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ryanlogic



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

esl_prof wrote:
I'd say stick with what you're good at and try to excel there. Clearly, you've got a gift for working with middle schoolers that very few people have. Your ability to work effectively with this very difficult age group will open many doors for you down the road. If anything, you should be requesting more classes in that age group.

Should you apply for IB schools down the road, market yourself as one who can effectively prepare today's middle schoolers for future success in tomorrow's IB program. In the meantime, approach your teaching from that perspective at your current job.

Good luck!


Very sound advice, thank you!

I'm not exactly sure why it is that the rest of my colleagues hate teaching middle school so much, but I think it may be an authority issue. I have a strong personality, so maybe that helps.
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ryanlogic



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Since the majority of posters on this site are EFL and not content teachers, you won't get a lot in the way of responses. Plus, most of us teach at the university level.

That said, you definitely need a state teaching license and a minimum 2 years of post-licensure experience in the US in order to compete for positions (IB and American curriculum) in international schools in the Gulf. Take a look at Teach Away to see the level of qualifications required and actual job opportunities in the region. International Schools Review is also a good site to post these types of questions.


Well, I am mostly still interested in teaching ESL to adults in the Middle East, however our IB director seems to think that I have a lot of potential otherwise. I'm expecting to pursue graduate studies part time over the next four years, and I plan to obtain the state licensure within the next two, God willing, so that shouldn't be a problem when the time comes.

I will definitely check out those resources though, thank you.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Very sound advice, thank you!

I'm not exactly sure why it is that the rest of my colleagues hate teaching middle school so much, but I think it may be an authority issue. I have a strong personality, so maybe that helps.


You're welcome! A former colleague (who fled middle school for adult ed), once commented to me that the only successful middle school teachers he knew were male coaches and jockular women. Everyone else, according to him, was just barely hanging in there. Thinking back on my own experience in middle school, the best teachers seemed to be those who projected a "cool" persona, were "fun" to take class with, and yet still managed to strike fear (or respect) in the hearts of young adolescents when it came to classroom discipline, much like how a coach keeps a team in line with the ever present threat of running more laps or doing a million pushups. So, quite possibly, your strong personality coupled with, I suspect, an ability to genuinely relate to the kids are what allow you not only to survive but to thrive in the middle school classroom. Add the ability to educate to the above equation, and you've got a a powerful formula for success.
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