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santi84
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| water rat wrote: |
A nice sincere post, saint84, except what the hell does "C'est la vie" mean? None of that bilingual Canuck talk please.
Reminds me of when Huck Finn told Jim about foreign languages.
"What'd you do, Jim, iffen a man said to you, "Parlee vous Franzee?"
Jim: "I'd punch him right in da face, an' I wouldn't keer iffen he was a white man!"  |
My apologies.
"Shit happens" is more appropriate for the rest of the anglosphere. |
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water rat
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| santi84 wrote: |
| water rat wrote: |
A nice sincere post, saint84, except what the hell does "C'est la vie" mean? None of that bilingual Canuck talk please.
Reminds me of when Huck Finn told Jim about foreign languages.
"What'd you do, Jim, iffen a man said to you, "Parlee vous Franzee?"
Jim: "I'd punch him right in da face, an' I wouldn't keer iffen he was a white man!" |
My apologies.
"Shit happens" is more appropriate for the rest of the anglosphere. |
Mmm. So much nicer in French... |
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santi84
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| water rat wrote: |
| santi84 wrote: |
| water rat wrote: |
A nice sincere post, saint84, except what the hell does "C'est la vie" mean? None of that bilingual Canuck talk please.
Reminds me of when Huck Finn told Jim about foreign languages.
"What'd you do, Jim, iffen a man said to you, "Parlee vous Franzee?"
Jim: "I'd punch him right in da face, an' I wouldn't keer iffen he was a white man!" |
My apologies.
"Shit happens" is more appropriate for the rest of the anglosphere. |
Mmm. So much nicer in French... |
Agreed, but offensive potty words are just so English. |
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likwid_777
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Where could I get a job with this CV? |
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[I am editing my subject and text here from the previous which stated "What places are your PREFERENCES for teaching?" since I know that my previous experience/education/citizenship leave me unqualified for certain places]
QUESTION:
Where could I get a job based on this summary of my CV? If you could, please comment on the country, public or private school jobs, university jobs or other areas. Thank you so much! I appreciate any input here, as I am new to the business and I am still learning the ins and outs of teaching abroad. Keep in mind, I am mostly concerned about saving money while teaching abroad (It's the not overall deciding factor, but it's a big factor).
EDUCATION:
BFA - Music Education and Music (completed full education program's requirements along with the full music education's requirements).
MA - Higher Ed Administration
TESOL (anticipated 2015)
TEACHING EXPERIENCE:
Music Teacher: K-8 for 2 years. 9-12 practicum teaching for 1 semester.
ESL Teacher in the US: Taught in-person (face-to-face) classes with a literacy organization (4 years) and online ESL lessons (3 years).
Thank you for any tips! |
I think that you could get a job in a veritable **** load of countries. You must remember that many of the posters here are "purists" and/or "I spent many hours and many dollars getting these qualifications, you can't take my level of jobists". Just apply and make sure that if you get a job, they give you the proper work visa. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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One to add to my synonym collection:
"Purist" = a qualified person.
Regards,
John |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Unfortunately frequently 'teachers' with no quals who nevertheless found jobs in those (few and getting fewer) countries where EFL related quals are not required, assume that much of the EFL world is similarly uninterested in EFL qualifications. It ain't so. |
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likwid_777
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:31 am Post subject: |
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One to add to my synonym collection:
"Purist" = a qualified person.
Regards,
John |
"Purist: a person who insists on absolute adherence to traditional rules or structures, especially in language or style."
Almost working on two levels right there! 
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| Unfortunately frequently 'teachers' with no quals who nevertheless found jobs in those (few and getting fewer) countries where EFL related quals are not required, assume that much of the EFL world is similarly uninterested in EFL qualifications. It ain't so. |
Roger, that's why the OP can apply, apply, apply to all and sundry. In this manner, he or she can gain employment wherever his or her CV is deemed up to muster.
Holy wowsers Batman! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Roger, that's why the OP can apply, apply, apply to all and sundry. In this manner, he or she can gain employment wherever his or her CV is deemed up to muster. |
Which is what she's likely to do, so it's unclear what your beef is. If you go through both the OP's threads, you won't see a bunch of responses telling her not to apply for positions in XYZ countries and teaching situations. She basically wanted to know what her quals could get her in terms of jobs that meet her specific teaching interests and financial needs. And frankly, she'll discover the answers to that question anyway once she starts looking at actual job ads in her target countries and their requirements---just like the rest of us do when we're job hunting. Plus, to her credit, she's planning ahead so that she won't end up spinning her wheels in some low, dead-end TEFL job (which is what you're doing as well). |
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likwid_777
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Roger, that's why the OP can apply, apply, apply to all and sundry. In this manner, he or she can gain employment wherever his or her CV is deemed up to muster. |
Which is what she's likely to do, so it's unclear what your beef is. If you go through both the OP's threads, you won't see a bunch of responses telling her not to apply for positions in XYZ countries and teaching situations. She basically wanted to know what her quals could get her in terms of jobs that meet her specific teaching interests and financial needs. And frankly, she'll discover the answers to that question anyway once she starts looking at actual job ads in her target countries and their requirements---just like the rest of us do when we're job hunting. Plus, to her credit, she's planning ahead so that she won't end up spinning her wheels in some low, dead-end TEFL job (which is what you're doing as well). |
I didn't even read this thread, just the OP's original post. I was just letting the OP know to not be discouraged. I have witnessed many posters here admonishing others for their lack of highly relevant qualifications, for example. Throughout the annals of Dave's, there is a history of individuals getting on an ethical high horse. A new poster is often told sternly by others that their (perhaps non-Ed) qualifications are wholly inadequate, and that Poster X is "not a real teacher".
If guvnas want to get their knickers in knots over me trying to encourage someone, then knotted knickers they'll have haha. |
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nomad soul
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| I didn't even read this thread, just the OP's original post. I was just letting the OP know to not be discouraged. I have witnessed many posters here admonishing others for their lack of highly relevant qualifications, for example. Throughout the annals of Dave's, there is a history of individuals getting on an ethical high horse. A new poster is often told sternly by others that their (perhaps non-Ed) qualifications are wholly inadequate, and that Poster X is "not a real teacher". |
In all fairness, that doesn't describe the majority of posters willing to take the time to offer useful and straight-forward advice based on the requestor's specific teaching interests, target countries, and personal needs. Besides, many of us recall our own newbie days. The majority of us will agree with you that berating newbies (or oldies) is uncalled for, rude, and demotivating. However, it's also not cool to add fuel to a fire that's not there. Nor is there any value in simply telling someone to "just go for it" but not provide any substance or specifics relevant to their situation.
Anyway, tomorrow's a new day. Carpe diem. |
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likwid_777
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From my (perhaps paranoid) perspective, many people exaggerate the level of necessary qualifications required for particular jobs in order to scare others away. I think this is a sort of occupational protectionism, which results in some of what I have witnessed and what I was previously referring to. My type of perception is different (yes, different, not superior) to yours, NS.
Due to personal preferences, I mostly read different parts of these forums compared with what you and others will or might. As a result, I see different things and also read between the lines in ways different to others. Therefore, there is value in what I say, in my opinion hahaha.
Not to mention, where people may have bit at a comment like the controversial clanger I dropped last night, it could perhaps be that such posters harbour pangs of guilt in defence of my sweeping, non specific "accusation" haha.
Furthermore, I had imbibed a respectable volume of red wine last night, and it would not be in anyone's interest to sweat over remarks uttered by me whilst under its influence. hahaha
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spiral78
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| From my (perhaps paranoid) perspective, many people exaggerate the level of necessary qualifications required for particular jobs in order to scare others away. |
In what world do you imagine any of us need to scare people away? What logic would there then be in our being so forthcoming about the most desirable quals to pursue to get the better jobs around?
If I were trying to limit 'competitors' I'd be pushing online certs right and left, MUHAHAHAHAHA.
I have been on hiring committees on and off for the past decade and it's great when we can find people to interview who have the quals relevant to the job. |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| Ah, Spiral, it's true about me. I've been trying to scare off posters from coming to Russia for years now... : ( |
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johnslat
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Dear Sasha,
Trying to? Don't be so modest. I'm sure you've had great success.
Regards,
John |
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Sashadroogie
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Dear Johnslat
I dunno, I dunno. I do all I can, but still they come. Tell 'em about the visa barriers, they get through that. Tell 'em about the demanding students, they love it. I play games with the economy, yet they are still filling my inbox with applications. I even annex bordering territory and try to provoke nuclear confrontation, but still they come. My successes have been limited at best...
Of course, I know why it is so. The dire state of the rotting West forces many poor TEFLers to hazard all all the above. Hard to resist the glittering attractions of the Workers' Paradise.
Might we be seeing you joining us over here at any stage soon, Johnslat? I'd strongly advise getting out of where you are before everything around you collapses for good. I'll put in a good word for you with the Politburo.
With Communist greetings
Sasha |
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