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[Trebek]

I recently agreed to a job in Kunming, signed the contract, they were happy with all the Documentation I sent them. A week later they message me and ask for a "No Criminal Check" . I happened to have a state apostille of no criminal record that was a year old, and they rejected it. I explained that I lived in China for the following year and they would know if I committed any crimes. The school said that the local Foreign Affairs Office would not accept the state check and wanted an FBI check. I explained that FBI checks are currently taking 3 months but that didn't work. This is the third school that has asked for a "No Criminal Check" in the past two months. WTF?

[jimpellow]

No big mystery me thinks. As the visa changes from the last few years have been trickling down they are being felt more by individuals like yourself. Beijing was first, as is the norm, then typically they start to work their way outwards to the richer jurisdictions in Eastern China before ending up in the poorer provinces and western China.

(As an example the pre-med which was done away by the Federal government in April 2014. Beijing no longer requires this, but most jurisdictions still do as they are seemingly naive to this.)

You may want to pin them down if you decide to proceed with finding out who may need to sign off on the background check once you receive it. In jurisdictions in China that require this further useless step that denotes that the designated American and Chinese authorities in the United States place their kiss on it too.

Good luck if it is worth it to you.

[mw182006]

Decided to look up the FBI page and yikes, you're right:

[Trebek]

Two of the gigs were universities and one was a Chinese International High School. The provinces were in Yunnan, Jiangsu, and Liaoning (sp)?.

I did get an FBI police check a few years back for another country and IT took the same amount of time, about 3 months. Their slowness has nothing to do with their new system, but it's nice that Ihey thought about getting a new system.

Those provinces require a medical check before I come with all kinds of stipulations as to what type of hospital I need to go to. Much easier to do a Chinese medical check in China.

It's smart that they are trying to week out the serious criminals, but I believe they are also weeding out people like me, or others with a minor misdemeanor. The serious criminals probably know where to find fake documentation anyway.

Mw: Don't you have to get fingerprinted in a USA police station before you send for the FBI background check?

[litterascriptor]

Yes, go to your local police station, ask them for a live scan. You may want to tip toe your way over to the korea forum and look into what they call visa handlers.. i think. apparently there are companies you can pay to get the results processed in a couple weeks.

[Trebek]

From my understanding, a visa handler can get you a state no criminal record check in a week or two. But they can't make the FBI move any faster.

But after checking out the forum of the "Country we cant mention which begins with a K", I did find this company: http://www.nationalbackgroundcheck.com/fbi-channeling.htm

They claim to have special FBI clearance which allows them to do this. It only costs like $70 and I'll give it a try and report back with my results. Thanks!

[BleedingBlue]

[Trebek]

Bleeding Blue,

Although you come off like a total jerk I will answer you anyway. A guy with a traffic ticket isn't a serious criminal vs a bank robber, or murderer.

What did you do? You seem to exhibit the same anti social behaviors as many sociopaths..

Have you nothing better to do with your sad life than to hijack this thread?

[Guerciotti]

I'll try to add something useful to this thread.

A short description of the 'channel' process:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/identity-history-summary-checks/fbi-approved-channelers

A list of approved channelers: [linked on the above page]

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/identity-history-summary-checks/list-of-fbi-approved-channelers

I will get fingerprints in another ASEAN country at the end of the month, then send them to a channeler by Fedex, get results sent to a relative back home (they - FBI - will not sent records overseas), then my relative sends (Fedex) the results to my school. I will get two sets of fingerprints in case one set is bad.

This process grew from the desire to avoid spending $2,500 + to go home and get the FBI report.

I'll let you know how it goes.

AFAIK, the channelers are a new thing. The processing time without a channeler has averaged 3 months since I can remember. Check the K forum. One time, back in 08, I got lucky and received the CRC in about 8 weeks. That was a CRC check for a local elementary school.

Good luck all. Let's figure this out, because it will probably expand to other provinces.

My situation, moved from one province to Jiangsu in December. They tell me, 'we need an FBI report'. Not surprised, I did one for Jiangsu before, but they want a new one. After about a month of unproductive office visits, find out I cannot get fingerprints done here. Wonderful! Thus, this convoluted process.

[Trebek]

Thanks for the excellent information Guercotti!. Apparently the CRC requirement has hit Bejing, Lioning, Yunnan, and Jiangu, my guess the requirement is all over the country. Can you go to the American consulate in Shanghai for fingerprints?

[Guerciotti]

[roadwalker]

[Big Worm]

Ive never heard of needing fbi. Far as i know a stzte still works in beijing.

[Guerciotti]

[jimpellow]

" Can you go to the American consulate in Shanghai for fingerprints?"

I believe from a past thread(s) that the consulate will not do the fingerprints for the FBI, but they can refer you to a service or two China side that will, and will be accepted by the FBI. If you search you even find the name of the service on here.