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fpshangzhou · Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 280

After a little digging, I found the fingerprinting services & contact info offered in Shanghai and Beijing.

For anyone interested for future reference, these are 2 fingerprinting Channelers found in China. (found on US consulate Shanghai website)

Beijing: “Beijing Tongda Shoucheng Institute of Judicial Expertise Science” (北京通达首诚司法鉴定所). Tel: 010-6290-7011.

Shanghai: “Forensic Science and Technology Institute” (司法鉴定科学技术研究所司法鉴定中心). Tel: 5235-2957.

Cheers,

Aaron

Captain Willard · Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 251

No, in the U. S. of A., a misdemeanor can be a traffic ticket, or an 18 year old guy who got into an argument with his girlfriend in a parking lot after leaving a bar. In a few states this might be called a summary criminal offense rather than a misdemeanor. As I remember, New York State may consider traffic offenses as administrative civil fines, but they are the exception. Whether of not traffic crimes will appear on a FBI report is unlikely, but it is possible. Without a distinction between civil fines and crimes, the only possible distinction is felons vs. other convicts, but being convicted of speeding does make someone a criminal convict in most U.S. states.

[Edit to add that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a person can be arrested, jailed, and strip searched after conviction of a simple traffic offense:
"People detained for minor offenses can turn out to be the most devious and dangerous criminals. One of the terrorists involved in the September 11 attacks was stopped and ticketed for speeding just two days before hijacking Flight 93."
Florence v. Board of Chosen Freeholders of County of Burlington 566 U.S. ___ (2012)]

The American system is to keep criminal records forever, so if this is now required for a work visa in a large ESL employer like China, the pool of possible employees just shrank considerably due to "crimes" that would not be considered crimes in the rest of the world. The problem is that countries with less stringent rules for CBCs will now be flooded with the truly bad actors looking to escape detection. The U. S. A. is not quite so free in comparison to the rest of the world, especially when criminalizing acts which are at best civil fines elsewhere in the world, and having the FBI publish this forever. It also puts U.S citizens at a competitive disadvantage with other citizens of English speaking countries in finding foreign employment.

Trebek · Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 401 Location: China

Thanks all! Once again this forum helped me to get a key issue resolved.

I got the prints and sent them to the channeler. Hopefully I will have a FBI background check in 5-7 days.

Guerciotti · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:17 pm Post subject:

Trebek · Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 401 Location: China

www.nationalbackgroundcheck.com

I'll report back with the results after next weekend.

Trebek · Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 401 Location: China

I got me Email results (the hard copy will be fed-ex'd by Monday) from the FBI channeler at : nationalbackgroundcheck.com, it looks official. At this point I am saying that this is the fastest route to getting an FBI police background check if you need one from the USA.

Unfortunately,

I do have an arrest that showed up from a 1983 public intoxication charge. I was hoping it fell off my record since it was only one night in the slammer and a $79 fine.

Does anyone know if this will prevent me from working in China?

RiverMystic · Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 1986

So, if I understand correctly, the crim record check is only required in some provinces? Can someone tell me if it's required in Guangzhou?

Secondly, are fingerprints mandatory? Or is this just something that the FBI requires? I'm Australian, so I'm thinking that might not apply to me.

Listerine · Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Posts: 340

RiverMystic · Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 1986

OK, thanks Listerine. That's very helpful. I'm in Australia at present, but have accepted a job near GZ. I'm looking to fly over ASAP, but my school isn't answering emails because of CNY, which kind of leaves me in a difficult situation.

I just received a fine in the mail the other day for crossing the rail tracks by foot before the light had turned green. Train had passed, so I thought I'd just mosey across. $362 bucks later I realised this was not a good idea. Kind of glad I'm getting out of this country. It's getting a little too fascist. I mean, what a ridiculous amount of money to pay for such a minor infringement which was completely non-consequential to anyone. Evil or Very Mad

Hope the fine doesn't show up on my crim check.

Trebek · Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 401 Location: China

River Mystic,

Traffic tickets won't show up on a criminal background check, they aren't considered to be a crime. They might show up on your driving record but they won't show up on your criminal record.

You'll be ok.

mw182006 · Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Posts: 310

So where did you have your prints taken? Last time I did it was in the states, but I'd have no problem doing it myself. Just send them 2-3 sets to be safe.

Trebek · Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 401 Location: China

I got the prints taken at a police station in the US. Still concerned whether my 33 year old Public intox conviction will keep me from getting a job.

Captain Willard · Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 251

Quite possibly it could disqualify you. Did you plead guilty or no contest? It could make a difference. You must remember the Asian importance on saving face. Being convicted of any minor crime can disqualify, as happens in the Land of the Morning Kimchi. North America lags behind the rest of the world in expunging records of petty offenders from criminal records. There is a whole industry for saving that data, even if it is expunged from the official records. The U.S. has no privacy laws like other countries.

kungfuman · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:00 pm Post subject:

A friend of mine in the USA got thrown in prison for 2 years for... driving without a license. It was his first offense.

The USA is a lock em up and throw away the key country these days.

So what if a person has lived in China for 10 years? WHY would the Chinese govt still want a criminal check?