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08mansoor



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:37 am    Post subject: Master's degree Reply with quote

To get a direct hire job you pretty much need a Master's degree. I know that online degrees are not really accepted, but I know some friends got hired from Universities with online degrees from places like the University of Phoenix. I was thinking about getting a Master's degree from Malaysia(hybrid online program) while working in Saudi Arabia. I would've gotten a Master's degree from the US, but universities are quite expensive, and my Bachelor's cost a fortune. So I'm weighing whether I should attempt to get a Master's degree from Malaysia, or possibly Spain. I'm not sure if it will be worth anyvalue in Saudi Arabia. Has anyone completed a Master's degree from the non anglo universities? And does anyone know if a degree from Malaysia would be accepted? Thanks in Advance.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

08mansoor wrote:
I know some friends got hired from Universities with online degrees from places like the University of Phoenix. I was thinking about getting a Master's degree from Malaysia(hybrid online program) while working in Saudi Arabia. I would've gotten a Master's degree from the US, but universities are quite expensive, and my Bachelor's cost a fortune. So I'm weighing whether I should attempt to get a Master's degree from Malaysia, or possibly Spain. I'm not sure if it will be worth anyvalue in Saudi Arabia.

I can't comment on your friends' situations because it's unknown what their full qualifications are or if they're trying to pull one over on you. But in your situation, you're taking a big gamble that Saudi employers (particularly direct hire) will be interested in a US citizen with a degree that 1) is from a non-English speaking country; and 2) obviously entailed online coursework. It very likely will end up being a costly mistake in terms of money and time.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most employers in KSA will give no credence or value to a Malaysian MA. Ditto for one from Spain.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Foreign Master's is from an accredited State university system in the U.S.. It was returned unsigned from the Saudi Cultural Mission.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny. On my first and only contract in Saudi the lead idiot at the client's school asked me to meet him. He asked if I had a Masters. I responded that I did. He asked if it was from an online school. I responded that it was not so he asked where it was from. I told him the London School of Economics. He said he had never heard of it so it was probably an online school. Mercifully he then changed the subject else I might have ended up in chop chop square.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimpellow wrote:
I told him the London School of Economics. He said he had never heard of it so it was probably an online school.


Clearly a fly-by-night online diploma mill--like MIT, Oxford, Yale . . . Laughing
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Gulezar



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:25 pm    Post subject: London School of Business Reply with quote

Now they probably would say, "Oh! It's good enough for Saif Gaddafi, but you must be rich and bought yours, too."
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds of of a colleague whose Norwegian immigrant father--a farmer in rural Washington state--discouraged him from accepting a scholarship to Harvard's MBA program, saying "I've never heard of Harvard. I don't think it's a very good school. Besides, you can get a great education at the University of Puget Sound."
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear esl_prof

Ah yes - good old UPS; it really delivers the goods. Very Happy

Regards,
John
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AGoodStory



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear esl_prof

Ah yes - good old UPS; it really delivers the goods. Very Happy

Regards,
John



Laughing Laughing Laughing

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my friends has an MA in Contemplative Education from Naropa University in Boulder, Colorado, and has been "contemplating" teaching in KSA. He asked me if it would be considered a relevant degree. Frankly, I have no clue and told him to apply to TEFL ads and see what happens. Shocked
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
One of my friends has an MA in Contemplative Education from Naropa University in Boulder, Colorado, and has been "contemplating" teaching in KSA. He asked me if it would be considered a relevant degree. Frankly, I have no clue and told him to apply to TEFL ads and see what happens. Shocked


Unless his degree included a concentration in TESOL (which I doubt), I hope he has plenty of time to contemplate rejection letters. Crying or Very sad In all fairness, Naropa is a very good school, especially in the arts, Buddhist philosophy, and peace and justice studies. But, based on what I've read here, I don't think any of that will be terribly useful in KSA.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the fellow in your avatar a professor there?

VS
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Is the fellow in your avatar a professor there?
Laughing

I lived in Boulder years ago, and yes, there are lots of highly-educated residents with that "look."

Peace out.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Is the fellow in your avatar a professor there?

VS


Maybe . . . What do you think? Wink
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