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Any legal way to get out of bad one-sided contract?
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RWA1981



Joined: 27 Mar 2014
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:17 am    Post subject: Any legal way to get out of bad one-sided contract? Reply with quote

I recently learned that half of my colleagues are earning almost twice as much as me for identical hours and work. The only difference is that I went through an agency and they did not. The principal doesn't care squat about this and tells me if I break my contract, I will be "blacklisted" and my invitation will be revoked and then I will get deported. Is there a legal way to break my contract?
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:54 am    Post subject: Re: Any legal way to get out of bad one-sided contract? Reply with quote

RWA1981 wrote:
I recently learned that half of my colleagues are earning almost twice as much as me for identical hours and work. The only difference is that I went through an agency and they did not. The principal doesn't care squat about this and tells me if I break my contract, I will be "blacklisted" and my invitation will be revoked and then I will get deported. Is there a legal way to break my contract?


yes, there is! read your contract! look in the section titled "breaking the
contract." in that section of the contract, there are details about...emmm...
breaking the contract.

you have read your contract, haven't you? before you signed? you will
likely have to pay a breach penalty, which could range from $500 to $2000.

why should the principle care? he's paying the same salary per teacher.
only difference is the others contacted the school directly to cut out the
middleman. you got a problem? take it up with the recruiter. in fact, you
may find that you're working for a recruiter/agency, and not directly for
the school.

and why should you care? the money and benefits were good enough to
get you to sign and come to china. you signed, you agreed. it was good
enough then, so perhaps you should nanren up, get through the first
contract, consider it a learning experience, and do gooder next time.
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RWA1981



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: Any legal way to get out of bad one-sided contract? Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
RWA1981 wrote:
I recently learned that half of my colleagues are earning almost twice as much as me for identical hours and work. The only difference is that I went through an agency and they did not. The principal doesn't care squat about this and tells me if I break my contract, I will be "blacklisted" and my invitation will be revoked and then I will get deported. Is there a legal way to break my contract?


yes, there is! read your contract! look in the section titled "breaking the
contract." in that section of the contract, there are details about...emmm...
breaking the contract.

you have read your contract, haven't you? before you signed? you will
likely have to pay a breach penalty, which could range from $500 to $2000.

why should the principle care? he's paying the same salary per teacher.
only difference is the others contacted the school directly to cut out the
middleman. you got a problem? take it up with the recruiter. in fact, you
may find that you're working for a recruiter/agency, and not directly for
the school.

and why should you care? the money and benefits were good enough to
get you to sign and come to china. you signed, you agreed. it was good
enough then, so perhaps you should nanren up, get through the first
contract, consider it a learning experience, and do gooder next time.


What if I fake an emergency back home and pretend I left. Will they know I found a better paying job somewhere else?
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: Any legal way to get out of bad one-sided contract? Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
so perhaps you should nanren up


哟bro臭豆腐,

Here in the South we may say you should 南人 up and not necessarily 男人 up.

Better than 难人 up (or is it down?) when breaking a contract, that's fo' sho'

Warm regards,
胖_chris
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Big Worm



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Breaking your contract would most likely require you to give 30 days notice and pay a fine. Depends on the contract tho.


I'd go about it by talking to your recruiter. You can get blacklisted for pulling a runner.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
and why should you care?


Precisely. You agreed to the contract as it was presented.

Quote:
The principal doesn't care squat about this


Why should he?
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Banner41



Joined: 04 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go through RWA1981's posts and the answers will be clear......new name.....same dumb game.....
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JamesD



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Location: "As far as I'm concerned bacon comes from a magical happy place."

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do wonder about the lack of creativity. Beyond the trollish-taunting-trivial posts, the names he/she/they use follow a pattern that makes him/her/them easy to spot.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is just conjecture, but another good possibility is that the headmaster is sharing your skimmed salary with the recruiter. Hence, your exploitation is of his economic benefit.

But people are correct in that you signed the contract for whatever reason. A hard lesson about the Chinese way for those who use recruiters (most) and seemingly failed to do proper research on the school and ESL industry in China beforehand. Quite the debate in ethics if you should honor the contract or not.

If you do decide to bail, I think the midnight run approach is best. Whether you will be blacklisted or not is an ongoing debate, though the new visa regulations do state that you will be denied a work permit for the next five(?) years. One could also argue to what extent this is being enforced.

Do you really love China? If not, there is an entire World out there with ESL positions. People seem to choose China for the simple reason that there are so many postings and thus the easiest route. I live in Cebu Philippines right now and have never seen an ESL job advertised here. Yet there are tons of opportunities for those willing to knock on some doors.

Few Chinese are capable of compassion, empathy and such. I would stop trying to get them to see the unfairness of it as they are simply incapable of such.

Hence, if you decide to do the midnight run, tell or hint about it to nobody. I don't know how many times I have known or read about teachers in China who start dropping hints about their intentions, expecting that it will magically transform the situation, but instead comes back and bites them in the a** by the school figuring out their intentions and taking preventive and punitive measures to stop it.

Good luck and learn from it regardless if you honor the contract or break it.
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stinkytofu



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do something to get fired preferably after the middle of the month, they'll usually pay you for the full month. A simple, "I hate China!" at a staff meeting or in front of your class should do it.

If you decide to do a runner you'll need to move to another province or they'll track you down. Here's my post on doing a runner.

Midnight Runner In China
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=83923&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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RWA1981



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkytofu wrote:
You can do something to get fired preferably after the middle of the month, they'll usually pay you for the full month. A simple, "I hate China!" at a staff meeting or in front of your class should do it.

If you decide to do a runner you'll need to move to another province or they'll track you down. Here's my post on doing a runner.

Midnight Runner In China
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=83923&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


Seriously? Why would they bother to track down someone who hates to work for them and argues with them every day and refuses to do their marketing bullshit?
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seriously? Why would they bother to track down someone who hates to work for them and argues with them every day and refuses to do their marketing bullshit?


Have you ever pi$$ed someone off .. I mean really pi$$ed em off.... I mean seriously make em mad...
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Fergie



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:01 pm    Post subject: Legal ways to break a China foreign teachers job contract Reply with quote

There are legal ways to break your contract without losing your visa or your pay, but you have to know a little bit about China labor law or find a lawyer that does. As you can see in this link, most foreign employment contracts are illegal if they ask you to violate China law or your own employee rights. http://www.bjstuff.com/profiles/blogs/cftu-advises-how-to-break-your-contract-resign-from-a-bad-or. Just don't make the mistake of assuming you are screwed when you may have a legal back door escape. Maybe you are stuck, maybe you aren't - Check and see.
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The Great North



Joined: 24 Feb 2015
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:38 am    Post subject: Re: Legal ways to break a China foreign teachers job contrac Reply with quote

Fergie wrote:
There are legal ways to break your contract without losing your visa or your pay, but you have to know a little bit about China labor law or find a lawyer that does. As you can see in this link, most foreign employment contracts are illegal if they ask you to violate China law or your own employee rights. http://www.bjstuff.com/profiles/blogs/cftu-advises-how-to-break-your-contract-resign-from-a-bad-or. Just don't make the mistake of assuming you are screwed when you may have a legal back door escape. Maybe you are stuck, maybe you aren't - Check and see.


Okay sounds good in theory, BUT will this stunt get you blacklisted? What happens to all the teachers who make a "midnight run"?
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dblkhqc



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The real issue is the OP's bad business sense and negotiating a contract in bad faith. The way I see it is the OP signed a contract with no intention of honoring his/her commitment. It's the OP's fault alone that he/she is getting the money being gotten. That is bad faith and grounds for termination by the employer.
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