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University of Jeddah - Any info?

 
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luteplayer



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:51 pm    Post subject: University of Jeddah - Any info? Reply with quote

I've been offered job at the University of Jeddah, formerly ELI KAU north campus. I'm wondering if anyone has any info on the place. I'd like to know if it is reputable, if it is possible to live in Jeddah and work there without a car, office and classroom schedule, students, etc.. Anything would be helpful.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Jeddah for many years without a car. I was regarded as eccentric by some, and just mean by others. You can get around using taxis and SAPTCO buses and local minibuses.

I refuse to become a worshipper of the Infernal Combustion Engine and its Apostle, Ford.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living in KSA is stressful enough without having to wait for and haggle with taxis.

Kudos to Scot for being able to put up with it...but, I would not be able to.
I think mere mortals need a car to get around in Jeddah.

I am, of course, assuming that you are a male. Females have no choice but to put up with the stress of taxis.....and paying for transportation.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the same as King Abdulaziz University?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pooroldedgar wrote:
Is that the same as King Abdulaziz University?

Obviously not since it's called the University of Jeddah.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The University of Jeddah" has the same ontological status as the Unicorn. It does not exist. There is King Abdulaziz University, which certainly does exist.

Being forced to drive a car in Jeddah is a punishment I would reserve for my vilest enemies.

Here is the official list of universities in KSA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_and_colleges_in_Saudi_Arabia

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: University of Jeddah - Any info? Reply with quote

luteplayer wrote:
I've been offered job at the University of Jeddah, formerly ELI KAU north campus. I'm wondering if anyone has any info on the place. I'd like to know if it is reputable, if it is possible to live in Jeddah and work there without a car, office and classroom schedule, students, etc.. Anything would be helpful.

Some of your questions should be directed to your HR contact/recruiter. Moreover, you didn't state if your offer is for the 2015-2016 academic year. Jeddah University is quite new and may not have yet began its foundation-year program. If that's the case, be aware that start-up programs are fraught with a variety of problems for the first 2-3 years. Something to consider before accepting the offer.

KSA to set up 3 new universities
By P.K. Abdul Ghafour, Arab News | 3 April 2014
Source: http://www.arabnews.com/news/549996

Giving another boost to the Kingdom’s higher education, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah has ordered the establishment of three new universities in Jeddah, Bisha and Hafr Al-Baten. It brings the total number of public universities in the Kingdom to 28.

Higher Education Minister Khaled Al-Anqari said King Abdulaziz University’s branches in north Jeddah as well as the colleges in Khulais and Kamil would be brought together under the new Jeddah University, which will have a total of 18 colleges and institutes. Makkah Gov. Prince Mishaal bin Abdullah thanked the Saudi leadership for approving the new universities. “This will help Saudi students to obtain higher education without any difficulty.” He said the independent Jeddah University would spread knowledge in the region.

The Bisha University will be formed bringing together King Khaled University’s (KKU) branch in Bisha and other colleges in neighboring principalities such as Namas, Balqarn, Sabt Al-Ulya and Tathlith, the minister said, adding that it would have a total of 13 colleges. The Hafr Al-Baten University will be established by transforming the branches of King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals (KFUPM) and Dammam University in Hafr Al-Baten and nearby principalities such as Naeeriya and Al-Khafji. It will have 12 colleges.

Saudi students and teachers welcomed the royal decision. Abdelelah Saaty, Dean of the College of Business in Rabigh, praised King Abdullah for leading Saudi Arabia’s educational renaissance. “Since he ascended the throne in 2005, the number of government universities has risen from seven to 28. This is a big achievement,” he told Arab News. He said Saudi Arabia required at least 10 more universities within the next five years to meet the requirements of its growing population.

“King Abdulaziz University was designed to accommodate 50,000 students. The number of its students have tripled,” Saaty said. The new Jeddah University will reduce the pressure on King Abdulaziz University, which has more than 140,000 students on its rolls. Saaty emphasized that the government should continue sending its citizens abroad for higher education to learn from the best practices of reputable universities across the world.

(End of article)
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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know three people who work there and can say for sure that at this moment the president of KAU is the president of UJ... it isn't separate at this moment but is in the process. Soon there will be UJ... and you need a car.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still a little confused about how or if the University of Jeddah and King Adbulazis University are related. It says "formerly ELI at KAU." What does that mean?

And if you type "University of Jeddah" into google, you get this:

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=university+of+jeddah&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=7nsKVcOLA9ScugSAoIDoAw
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah ! I stand corrected, but still say that you can get by without a car.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pooroldedgar wrote:
I'm still a little confused about how or if the University of Jeddah and King Adbulazis University are related. It says "formerly ELI at KAU." What does that mean?

They're not related; Jeddah University is new. Read the article I posted.
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luteplayer



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:43 pm    Post subject: Jeddah U -reality Reply with quote

Thanks for that article NS. It pretty much confirms what I was told in the interview. It used to be ELI KAU north branch and will follow entirely the same curriculum etc. as its former parent institution but it is a NEW university in its own right.
Either way, doesn't sound all that appetizing for a non-automobilista when looking at google maps (Asfan road route 285). Seems kind of far out in the middle of nowhere.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend once picked me up in his car in Jeddah and about a minute later another car smashed into us. There are countless similar examples and the main reason I don't drive in Saudi. The stress will take years off you. I think I'd just end up fighting and end up in jail.

You will be able to find any number of drivers (most of whom can't really drive, even if they've been at it for 30 years, but at least they pay for repairs, fines and take the strain) and after a while you'll find a reliable one who comes on time. That's what I do now.
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