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nomad soul
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 Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:58 am Post subject: 18,000 expats teach in KSA universities |
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18,000 expats teach in KSA universities
Arab News | 13 June 2014
Source: http://www.arabnews.com/news/585946
RIYADH--There are more than 18,000 foreign teachers currently employed in Saudi Arabia’s universities and higher educational institutions, local media reported, quoting data released by the Ministry of Higher Education.
The total number of teaching staff at the government-run and private universities stands at 63,370 faculty members with 18,000 expatriates serving in various positions including professor, associate professor, assistant professor, lecturers and assistant lecturers, the daily said quoting the Ministry’s report.
According to the report, there are 52 male teaching members at Princess Nora bint Abdulrahman University for Girls, including only one Saudi professor. Female teachers at Princess Nora University reached 1,703 including 179 foreigners of whom 49 are professors, 115 associate professors, 569 assistant professors, 510 lecturers, and 460 are assistant lecturers, the report said.
The number of (male and female) teaching staff at the Riyadh-based King Saud University (KSU) is estimated at 6,318 of which 1,661 are foreigners. In Imam Mohamed ibn Saud Islamic University (IMSIU), the teaching staff has reached 3,426 of which 532 are foreigners.
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veiledsentiments
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I'm less surprised at the expat number than I am at the suggested non-expat numbers... 40K plus Saudi teachers? Full professors all?
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2buckets
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40K plus Saudi teachers? Full professors all?
They took my wastometer test, and guess what, they all passed. |
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scot47
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| Most of them will be teaching "Deen" or "Tawheed" or one of the 57 varieties of Islamic theology. Like the one who used to appear on TV described as "Professor of Astrophysics and Islamic Theology". |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| One word: Saudization. |
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Rostom
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| One word: Saudization. |
Saudization = Stagnation!
'Do you want a Saudization job or a real one?'
"Required to employee a certain percentage of Saudis -- the number varies depending on the size and activity of the company -- many companies pay young Saudi men to collect salaries for jobs that either don't exist or they prefer to reserve for expatriate workers. Despite the Ministry of Labor's moves to reserve dozens of job categories for Saudis, the practice of employing Saudis "on paper" continues to exist."
https://www.zawya.com/story/Do_you_want_a_Saudization_job_or_a_real_one-ZAWYA20140322040756/ |
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nomad soul
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| Rostom wrote: |
Saudization = Stagnation!
'Do you want a Saudization job or a real one?'
"Required to employee a certain percentage of Saudis -- the number varies depending on the size and activity of the company -- many companies pay young Saudi men to collect salaries for jobs that either don't exist or they prefer to reserve for expatriate workers. Despite the Ministry of Labor's moves to reserve dozens of job categories for Saudis, the practice of employing Saudis "on paper" continues to exist." |
Well, starting from the 1970s, this use of a quota or preference system was (and is) a common tactic of some US employers in filling positions with women or minorities under the guise of Affirmative Action. The US government, in accord with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, required employers to increase their numbers of minority hires. To the chagrin of qualified, white applicants, employers would fill positions with under or unqualified minority applicants solely to meet the quotas. The quota system was eventually challenged in court as discriminatory because it favored gender and race over grades, test scores, academic qualifications, experience, etc. Anyway, this practice isn't new nor unique to the US. |
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nfig77
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The article describes it as no different than collecting unemployment benefits.
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Ladyinthesand
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nfig77
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| Does it say how many western teachers there are? If I had to guess, I'd say less than 10% of that number overall. |
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scot47
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There are a few Westeners teaching English, but most of the "expats" are from India, Pakistan and the Arab World.
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revilo
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A colleague of mine from ACK is looking at KSA very seriously. Too bad he's got a Ph.d in Business and not English. the Kuwaiti attitude got to him and he's anxious to make a tactical retreat to the Magic Kingdom.
Is this a common occurrence in the Mideast? Finding that the grass is greener when you've made a major mistake? |
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scot47
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| I have met quite a few who had a love-hate relationship with the place. After a few months they tire of KSA and then go back home. When harsh economic reality hits they look for another employer in KSA and come back. After a few months, they weary of Arabee and leave, and the cycle repeats endlessly |
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jumpingmonkey
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| There are a few Westeners teaching English, but most of the "expats" are from India, Pakistan and the Arab World. |
Why the scare quotes? Are you hinting that an Indian, Pakistani or non-Saudi Arab is somehow less of an expat than a westerner? |
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veiledsentiments
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Some people don't like the word expat... never have been sure why.
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