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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="nickelgoat"]Not recommended. Yes it's a startup, but so many things have yet to be finalized. There is also a strange mix of personalities. One incredible freak here requested a brand new guy move out because of his cat, which he told the company he was bringing beforehand. Extreme neat freak who didn't like the new guy right off the bat. He's already thinking of leaving.[/quote]

When you say not finalized, what do you mean? In terms of teaching arrangements or other things? Also, are there many problems with accomodations and personalities?
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

****bump*****


Is no news, good news? It seems that this thread has gone silent, is that usually good sign for employers?
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nickelgoat



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickelgoat wrote:
4 guys to a villa sharing a bathroom is too much!


Ouch!

that's just sick and wrong....
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I guess silence isn't golden.
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Captain Willard



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I heard, the DoS or project manager is having problems filling the positions. Many qualified people are unwilling to work in KSA start-up. The same person responsible for hiring wants those he hires to have enthusiasm and commit to this project based on a leap of faith. Presumably, he will soon need to reconsider his expectations for hiring staff or have none. Those who have worked in the Gulf know how it is. This individual apparently does not.
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With four adults living and working together, with limited facilities, I imagine staying motivated is difficult.
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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talked to a recruiter at Salient about a year ago about the Aussie job. He said salary would be 42K. I said....HELL NO!!! I WONT GO.

for that salary....go teach somewhere else...where you have a life. Like China, Taiwan, or Korea....or even Indonesia.

Saudi is only good for the money!!! or for religious reasons...if you are so inclined....barring those two reasons....DONT DO IT.

I would need to make at least 65K (with housing paid for) to even consider it. My advise....AGAIN....DONT DO IT for such a paltry salary.
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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AGAIN....42K...is not enough for Saudi....unless you are in love with Saudi culture.....HMMMM.....such a nice place to live.....Top ten things I love about living in Saudi.

10. The palpable feeling of oppression.
9. The driving.
8. Being shut out of stores during prayer times.
7. Being treated like a migrant worker.
6. The efficiency at which things get done.
5. Dependability of people's word.
4. The feeling that you are expendable.
3. Job security.
2. Opportunity for career development.

and the number 1 reason I love living in Saudi....

1. The people.


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cmp45



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BajaLaJaula wrote:
AGAIN....42K...is not enough for Saudi....unless you are in love with Saudi culture.....HMMMM.....such a nice place to live.....Top ten things I love about living in Saudi.

10. The palpable feeling of oppression.
9. The driving.
8. Being shut out of stores during prayer times.
7. Being treated like a migrant worker.
6. The efficiency at which things get done.
5. Dependability of people's word.
4. The feeling that you are expendable.
3. Job security.
2. Opportunity for career development.

and the number 1 reason I love living in Saudi....

The POMPOUS attitude of people feeling that they are superior to everyone else without having any reason whatsoever.

Go enjoy Saudi for 42K a year...Bi saha. Ma'a salaama.


42K is 42k; for that amount pick your master wisely or in other words research diligently; a lot also depends on one's qualifications and experience and of course as you so eloquently stated, but will rephrase to neutralize the bias.
one's ability to adjust to Saudi culture and all that goes with it.
Your words...
People feeling superior to everyone else with out having a reason whatsoever

Gotta love it when posters generalize to the point where one has to wonder...where on earth can a person teach where there are no people.

Your location Al Hassa...where is that exactly?
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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

live in Saudi for a while and you will begin to understand why I generalize.
If you are still not convinced then maybe you are just the type of person that sees everything through rose colored glasses.

Not all of them are arrogant...but I am willing to guess that if you were to take a poll of foreigners who have lived in Saudi for an extended period of time, the majority would label them as one of the rudest, most arrogant people on the face of the earth. The US ranks pretty high too, BTW.

Check out this post, http://undertheabaya.com/2011/06/27/on-rudeness-and-racism/ Take off those glasses and see Saudi the way most arabs and others, not making large sums of money, feel about them.
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BajaLaJaula wrote:
live in Saudi for a while and you will begin to understand why I generalize.
If you are still not convinced then maybe you are just the type of person that sees everything through rose colored glasses.

Not all of them are arrogant...but I am willing to guess that if you were to take a poll of foreigners who have lived in Saudi for an extended period of time, the majority would label them as one of the rudest, most arrogant people on the face of the earth. The US ranks pretty high too, BTW.

Check out this post, http://undertheabaya.com/2011/06/27/on-rudeness-and-racism/ Take off those glasses and see Saudi the way most arabs and others, not making large sums of money, feel about them.


I am well aware of the injustices and racism which exists in KSA.
Do tell me, where in the world is there a perfect place free of injustice and racism? Unfortunately, it is not just a Saudi problem it is endemic world wide. Yes, the link you posted certainly is telling with regards to one person's expectations of what life will or should be like in KSA...it's a sad reality. This problem is part of an unfortunate human 'condition' which many countries must deal with and it is not unique to KSA alone. This notion that because KSA is the center of Islam therefore all it's citizens should behave like model citizens is rose tinted thinking also. I try to maintain some balance when discussing the citizens of an entire country. Everywhere you go you will find arrogant people,racist people and people with bad manners. What to do, what to do???
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fledex



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BajaLaJaula wrote:
AGAIN....42K...is not enough for Saudi....unless you are in love with Saudi culture.....HMMMM.....such a nice place to live.....Top ten things I love about living in Saudi.

10. The palpable feeling of oppression.
9. The driving.
8. Being shut out of stores during prayer times.
7. Being treated like a migrant worker.
6. The efficiency at which things get done.
5. Dependability of people's word.
4. The feeling that you are expendable.
3. Job security.
2. Opportunity for career development.

and the number 1 reason I love living in Saudi....

1. The people.


Don't forget, the best part of Saudi Arabia is leaving it; pure ecstasy without any chemical substance.
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fledex



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BajaLaJaula wrote:
Talked to a recruiter at Salient about a year ago about the Aussie job. He said salary would be 42K. I said....HELL NO!!! I WONT GO.

for that salary....go teach somewhere else...where you have a life. Like China, Taiwan, or Korea....or even Indonesia.

Saudi is only good for the money!!! or for religious reasons...if you are so inclined....barring those two reasons....DONT DO IT.

I would need to make at least 65K (with housing paid for) to even consider it. My advise....AGAIN....DONT DO IT for such a paltry salary.


Very good advice. I agree wholeheartedly, except $70,000 was my cutoff. When my employer went down to $65,000 while I was still in KSA I said so long, I'll take my life back where I left off.
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teflguyusa



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:30 am    Post subject: quote Reply with quote

BajaLaJaula wrote:
AGAIN....42K...is not enough for Saudi....unless you are in love with Saudi culture.....HMMMM.....such a nice place to live.....Top ten things I love about living in Saudi.

10. The palpable feeling of oppression.
9. The driving.
8. Being shut out of stores during prayer times.
7. Being treated like a migrant worker.
6. The efficiency at which things get done.
5. Dependability of people's word.
4. The feeling that you are expendable.
3. Job security.
2. Opportunity for career development.

and the number 1 reason I love living in Saudi....

1. The people.



bumping this again, love the sarcasm!

Btw, any new updates on this startup? Who is still working there? What are the conditions like now? Work environment? Students?
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