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Beijing Normal University - HK Baptist U joint venture

 
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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:51 am    Post subject: Beijing Normal University - HK Baptist U joint venture Reply with quote

They have ads up on other sites... does anyone work for them?
KNow anything about them?
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doogsville



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's the campus in Zhuhai, you may get some useful information from the Zhuhai expat sites or the Zhuhai expat group on Facebook. You're more likely to come across teachers or ex teachers there.

www.deltabridges.com
www.zhuhainights.com
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Simon in Suzhou



Joined: 09 Aug 2011
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Location: GZ

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked there 4 years ago. It was generally a decent place. Could do better, could do worse. The students were wonderful and had a much high level of English fluency than at most Chinese unis. A weird contract in which they paid you by the hour, and you ONLY got paid for your teaching hours. You got NOTHING for ANY holidays or vacations. Always straight up about the pay and no problems in this area. The pay is higher than average for folks with a Master's or PHD, not so great if you work it out for a B.A.

There was a big push to have teachers teach academic classes in addition to just oral English, which added to the workload considerably for no extra pay (large lecture classes, weekly homework to correct, real exams).

They built new apartments for teachers a couple years ago, and it was quite a stir when the teachers had to move into much smaller places- essentially hotel rooms with a small kitchen. I'm not sure the feeling about that now.

It's a lovely, peaceful campus in the countryside. There is a high speed train stop on campus which connects you to GZ and the Macau border.
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tlkdmc



Joined: 31 Mar 2015
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I visited the campus while traveling through the area. I would never work there. It's like a mountain monastery. Contract is per hour with no real guarantee of hours. I have post-post-graduate professional degree. which was worth only 500 RMB more basically when it comes to per hour. No vacation, holiday, support, etc. Apartments are a joke. They are a backpacker university with backpacker teachers. The require foreigners only to satisfy their accreditation requirements. Stay away from this school.
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doogsville



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlkdmc wrote:
I visited the campus while traveling through the area. I would never work there. It's like a mountain monastery. Contract is per hour with no real guarantee of hours. I have post-post-graduate professional degree. which was worth only 500 RMB more basically when it comes to per hour. No vacation, holiday, support, etc. Apartments are a joke. They are a backpacker university with backpacker teachers. The require foreigners only to satisfy their accreditation requirements. Stay away from this school.


So you gleaned all of this from a visit to their campus! Amazing, what powers you have. And what a lot of rubbish you post.

It's nothing like a monastery. It's a big campus with good facilities, and there's two other big uni campuses nearby too. There are some 'mountains' nearby and it's a popular area for hiking. There are a couple of western restaurants and a good bar not too far away, and there's a fairly large and thriving expat community in the area.

As to the salary issue, be careful you're not confusing this gig with the standard BNU gig. I think they may be different things. BNU advertises for teachers for it's own campus, and they are indeed paid hourly, and in recent years the job has had less than favorable reviews. Apparently the FAO changed a couple of years ago, and the new person is not very good at the job, and as a result a lot of teachers have left BNU. That being said, they still have a lot of foreigners there, so it can't be all bad.

The joint venture job is, as far as I am aware, a different job entirely. I have met and worked with some teachers who work there, and they seem very happy. A lot of those teachers are recent graduates from the USA who spend a year in Zhuhai for experience.

I would get onto the expat sites I mentioned and get some real, current information from people who are working or have worked at the specific job you are looking at before making a decision.
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teenoso



Joined: 18 Sep 2013
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Location: south china

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was there before they opened the high-speed rail station near the campus and found the place very isolated and annoying - the buses took ages to get downtown and were full of students. Zhuhai is a nice city but in reality it is 40 minutes away, at least. Around the campus is a golf course, other unis and very little else. The new rail link should have improved things, but it would be worth checking how often the trains stop at the campus station.

As another poster says, the joint venture campus on BNU was run separately from BNUZ itself , and that probably means all the terms and conditions (including the accommodation) are different . My impression too was that the foreign teachers at the joint venture were better looked after than those at BNUZ.

Because of problems with the new accommodation block, some teachers lived off-campus about 20 minutes away in Tangjiawan , where there was a decent supermarket, and a Brit-run bar (opinions vary).
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canrun30



Joined: 03 Oct 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed my time there. Left to open my own school; no more no less. I would highly recommend HKBU, but they have changed some things since I left in 2013, so continue to check around. PM me if you'd like info that was current as of 2013.
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