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Without a 4 year degree, how much experience?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkozera wrote:
Pitarou wrote:
You don't need a 4-year degree. I believe that 3 years relevant experience is sufficient.

Your visa would be a Specialist in Humanities visa.


depends where you live, in the states we don't have a 3 year option due to the universities wanting to drain all the $$ they can. We only have a 4 year undergraduate degree. you CAN do it in less than 4 years by taking 18 credits a term and taking summer classes but that usually only shaves off like half a year


In countries that have 3 year degrees, you usually have to declare a major before entering the university and in order to get out of your three year degree in three years, you start doing courses in your major subject from the first term. (Intro to ______ is often a two-term survey course for first year students, and, depending on the subject, may be limited to people majoring in the course). In the US, people often don't start their major courses until the second term of second year. It's not all a money grab.

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You do not need to study applied linguistics to teach English in Japan, either at Eikaiwa or schools. Lots of teachers here in Japan like to think so highly of themselves, but in reality their job is a combination of playing games, telling kids to repeat after themselves, singing songs and making the odd conversational activity.


True. But this isn't really about what information you absolutely require to do the job. It's about ability to get a job. You don't need a PhD in Applied Linguistics to teach first year university students 'The Paragraph' (Topic sentence, Support Sentence (x3), Conclusion sentence). In the past, they had people with just an undergrad do that. Then it required a master's. Then it had to be a master's with publications, and now "PhD preferred".
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rtm



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsintodreams wrote:
Oh, here we go again.

You do not need to study applied linguistics to teach English in Japan, either at Eikaiwa or schools. Lots of teachers here in Japan like to think so highly of themselves, but in reality their job is a combination of playing games, telling kids to repeat after themselves, singing songs and making the odd conversational activity.

That's all the Japanese trust us with. In %99.9 of the cases, it'll be the Japanese teacher who does the grammar/linquistics teaching.

Maybe I missed it, but did anyone say that one needs to study applied linguistics to teach in Japan? The OP said "I can't stand college as I actually haven't learned anything useful in my career that I am doing now [i.e., teaching EFL]". I merely suggested that the OP might find an undergrad degree in applied linguistics, TESOL, or language teaching more useful for EFL teaching than whatever he/she was studying before. If you think "a degree in basket weaving" would be more useful for EFL teaching than a degree in, say, TESOL, then I guess you are entitled to that opinion.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to get a humanities visa with my several years of experience in Vietnam. 3 years FT was the required amount - sounds like you're almost there.
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkozera wrote:
Pitarou wrote:
You don't need a 4-year degree. I believe that 3 years relevant experience is sufficient.


depends where you live, in the states we don't have a 3 year option due to the universities wanting to drain all the $$ they can. We only have a 4 year undergraduate degree. you CAN do it in less than 4 years by taking 18 credits a term and taking summer classes but that usually only shaves off like half a year

Interesting, and informative, but you really should read posts more carefully before you respond to them.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sudz wrote:
I was able to get a humanities visa with my several years of experience in Vietnam.

Hey, Sudz, did you complete your degree? I recall you were traveling between countries to attend classes.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could try Germany, university is free there (if you can get in).


UM. A US citizen with no ties to Germany is not eligible for free German university education.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not true.
Housing and meals have to be paid for though.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Nomad Soul,

Yes, the MA has been completed. My thesis mark has been finalized, and now I just have to wait until graduation to get the thing. Japan is going fine, though future job prospects will determine whether or not I stay (in addition to location)

Thanks for asking
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats! You're a trooper! I bet you feel like dancing on top of the world now that you're done (if you have any energy left). Laughing

Good to see you back on the forums.
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