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Whatever will be
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MuscatGary
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| The HoD at Rustaq CAS once showed me the invoice to the College from Hawthorn. They get 1,900 pcm for each and every teacher regardless of the teacher's qualifications. This means that the more people they employ on basic qualifications, BA + TEFL, the more they make. |
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MuscatGary
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| balqis wrote: |
| And in CAS and Kulijat Takanya it is just like Lieutenant Welsh's, no more. balqis |
Only if you're not direct hire. I was being paid 1,500 by CAS as a Ministry direct hire with a Masters + 4 years verifiable post-Masters experience. |
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stillafool
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Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| can anyone give advice as to how much i could expect to earn on a first salary in oman? i've been offered a position with the college of arts and sciences at U of Nizwa (not the foundations institute). i think their offer is a bit low, but i'm not sure what to counter with. i have 11 years verifiable teaching experience with universities in korea (10 yrs) and afghanistan (1 yr) two of which are post MA. i have one publication pending and graduated with distinction. can anyone give me a ballpark figure regarding what i should reasonably expect? cheers |
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EFL Educator
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Nowadays it is not what you expect in terms of salary...it's what you and every EFL teacher will get . You will get about OMR 1,000/Month basic salary if you have a Masters degree,,,,with only a Bachelors degree + TEFL certificate you will get less.....OMR 850 -900/Month.. Forget about TEFL experience it doesn't matter anymore EFL Salaries in Oh Man have been stagnant (and falling) for years now...due to the oversupply of fresh 20 something year olds aka newbies in the TEFL workplace right out of university armed with degrees from A-Z!!! 
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Tazz
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| I'm curious to know what 'competitive salary' has been offered to anybody who has applied to TATI for the MOM Shinas positions? It's clear, after some deliberation, that Hawthorn aren't dropping the salaries for new hires, it breaks down same as last year.....but MOM and the recruitment agencies-could be a different kettle of fish. |
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MuscatGary
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Location: Flying around the ME...
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| EFL Educator wrote: |
| Nowadays it is not what you expect in terms of salary...it's what you and every EFL teacher will get . You will get about OMR 1,000/Month basic salary if you have a Masters degree,,,,with only a Bachelors degree + TEFL certificate you will get less.....OMR 850 -900/Month.. Forget about TEFL experience it doesn't matter anymore EFL Salaries in Oh Man have been stagnant (and falling) for years now...due to the oversupply of fresh 20 something year olds aka newbies in the TEFL workplace right out of university armed with degrees from A-Z!!! |
It's 50% higher if you're a Ministry direct hire. |
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1st Sgt Welsh
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Location: Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| Whatever will be wrote: |
1st Sgt Welsh
I compared the Hawthorn offer with what people in my network get paid as well as my own pay. So, in that regard the advertised pay is heaps worse than what my colleagues, friends and I are getting. |
You used the salary details from a recent Hawthorne job advertisement to support the statement that “Salaries are getting worse”. The only comparison that was relevant is what Hawthorne had offered in the past and what they are offering now for the same position/s. The fact is, in the example you provided, the salary is not “worse”. It is exactly the same as it was last year. When this was pointed out to you in a neutral fashion, instead of acknowledging your error like an adult, you went on to make a condescending and snide comment directed at the poster (i.e. me) who had simply stated the facts. Why you felt compelled to do this, I have no idea.
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What happens in Salalah is not representative of the rest of the country.
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But what happens in Muscat with you and your “colleagues and friends” is. Got it! 
I only mentioned Salalah because that is the market that I am familiar with and, like I said, I can assure you that the conditions that I am on are very much representative of agency teaching in Oman’s second largest city.
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Compared to my previous jobs in Asia, you are right: things are not peachy here in Oman. |
I’m sorry to hear that and good luck with the move if that is what you decide to do.
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Let's hope Omanoman is right and all those thousands of newbies encountering the low pay, lazy students, incompetent administration and boring life style will have sunny dispositions and only happy thoughts.
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In regards to “lazy students”, yep, but the fact is they don’t need to work hard. They’ve got the natural resources, cheap migrant labor and a ‘nanny state’ which will give them cushy, secure government jobs and protect them from market forces. That’s not an Oman thing, that’s the Gulf and there are much lazier locals and students in this region than the Omanis. Although, I admit, I find that hard to believe at times  . Concerning "low pay", I personally don’t want for anything, only teach 12 hours a week and can easily squirrel away 2,000 USD a month. I’m not complaining, but if others want to then that’s up to them. In regards to "incompetent administration", Hawthorne is very competent, but the individual colleges can be a bit more of a wild card. Finally, turning to "a boring life style", once again I can only speak for myself, but I’ve found plenty of things to do whilst I've been here, but then again I've never experienced work in the country's interior so I won't comment too much on that.
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| Just like the many hundreds of other teachers who are already in-country and post profusely about their good fortune in this forum. |
There are probably a dozen or so regular posters on this forum, some of whom don’t even seem to live in Oman. Besides, people who are content with their lot, usually just get on with it and tend not to spend too much time on forums such as this one. I saw that when I was in Vietnam and very few of my friends there could be bothered with Internet teaching boards and they just saw them as a waste of time. Disgruntled teachers who want a venue to whine are often a very different matter though. |
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1st Sgt Welsh
Joined: 13 Dec 2010
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Location: Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| MuscatGary wrote: |
| The HoD at Rustaq CAS once showed me the invoice to the College from Hawthorn. They get 1,900 pcm for each and every teacher regardless of the teacher's qualifications. This means that the more people they employ on basic qualifications, BA + TEFL, the more they make. |
Well, as someone with "basic qualifications" I guess I should be grateful that that is the case  . In regards to the figures you quoted, they are a business and, of course, they are going to do what they can to maximize profits. Personally, as an employee, I don't begrudge them making good money out of me as long as they honor their promises. |
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madrileno
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
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Location: Salalah, Oman
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| EFL Educator wrote: |
| Forget about TEFL experience it doesn't matter anymore EFL Salaries in Oh Man have been stagnant (and falling) for years now...due to the oversupply of fresh 20 something year olds aka newbies in the TEFL workplace right out of university armed with degrees from A-Z!!! |
Fortunately this scenario only appears to be the case at University of Buraimi, UNiza, and other less appealing places in the Sultanate.
I can say the colleges of technology are still pretty strict when it comes to credentials. A BA in gender studies or underwater basket weaving + a TEFL cert done online will NOT get an early twenty-something fresh out of college a job at the HCTs.
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CVN-76
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| EFL Educator wrote: |
| Forget about TEFL experience it doesn't matter anymore....EFL Salaries in Oh Man have been stagnant (and falling) for years now...due to the oversupply of fresh 20 something year olds aka newbies in the TEFL workplace right out of university armed with degrees from A-Z!!! |
The claim that one can now get a job somewhere in Oman with no teaching experience I find rather hard to swallow. |
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