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scot47
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| Off his trolley ? What use is a trolley in the Sands of Arabia ? |
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nomad soul
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| All the PhD (TESOL and Applied Linguistics) holders at the university foundation year program where I worked were from Pakistan, KSA, Jordan, Malaysia, Egypt... They also had a CELTA---one had a Delta. The exception was a PhD holder from the UK who had a very small EFL teaching load because she also taught in the university's teacher education program. |
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Grendal
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
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Location: Lurking in the depths of the Faisaliah Tower underground parking.
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| Makkah wrote: |
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Now class, repeat after me: "After have...you must Verb 3."
The charade of teaching grammar as a second language in the middle east. |
Classes that are considered normal here can only be considered as being remedial in Europe or USA. The fun part here is watching teachers buy in to the fact that they think they are really teaching, supporting the rest of us with various "teaching" approaches demonstrated thru workshops and PowerPoint and so forth. How many have I sat thru......a good laugh, all the same |
the only good workshop i attended here was the one i gave myself on effective whiteboard use. old-school techniques with new world psychology. colour usage on white board really helps students and teachers to concentrate on important grammatical features and writing concepts.
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mashkif
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Agree with Maskkif. There is no science above math, logica and physics, if all these three are true, and even this, if they are true, cannot be proved, and we do not know. We don't even know what gravitation, mass or electricity is.
PhD in education, psychology, Elt or literature is a fake joke. balqis |
What a ridiculous ignorant statement. A PHD is a piece of research intended to advance the corpus of knowledge in the field it is undertaken. All fields of study are valid. To suggest otherwise is elitist and ultimately defeatist. |
Oh, please. As if sequencing the human genome or constructing artificial intelligence is anything comparable to spending three or more years fapping about "assessing written work" or "comparative phonology of Arabic and Telugu" (both latter being actual topics of doctoral dissertations).
There is nothing in the areas listed by Balqis that justifies a years-long in-depth study culminating in a qualification carrying the same gravitas as someone who makes genuine advances in medicine, physics, biotechnology, etc. Language teaching and literature are beyond a joke, whereas education and psychology are guesswork at best.
If you want to figure out how knowledge is acquired or explain human behavior, don't do a "doctorate" in education or psychology. Rather, do one in neuroscience: Study and map the brain, and figure out how it influences and affects the two. But of course, that would require far more skill and talent than collecting a bunch of freshmen's "essays," organizing a few multiple-choice "surveys," and proceeding to "analyze" them under the pretense of being able to discover something new.
In fairness, I'm not saying such activities have no value at all, merely that they are too vapid and trite to constitute an actual doctorate. Do it as part of a master's course or as a presentation at one of the T.E.F.L. "conferences" (*snicker*) instead.
And before you guys rip into me, let me clarify my position. Language teaching is a worthy activity. It takes skill and talent. Not everyone can do it, and those who can and who can do it well deserve praise and respect. But don't try to pass it off as a serious academic endeavor, necessitating "journals," "research," "conferences," and whatnot. It ain't. |
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