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ebooktrial0001
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 156
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:59 am Post subject: What Certificate Will Prepare Me to Teach ESL Learning? |
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Hi Everyone,
In truth, I'm an ESL teacher that's mediocre at best. I took a CELTA; but, I feel I didn't learn much or do well.
The good news is, my current employer in China wants a Westerner to teach ESL. They may pay for an additional degree, if I will do it. Can someone answer the following four questions as concisely as possible:
1. What degree in teaching will be the best for me to advance?
Potential choices include:
a. Master's in TEFL/TESOL/etc. (either online or in-person)
b. DELTA
c. PGSE
2. For the DELTA, do costs vary by center, as they do with the CELTA?
3. How long does the DELTA take to complete?
4. How much of the DELTA can be done via distance?
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Gamajorba
Joined: 03 May 2015 Posts: 357
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:44 am Post subject: Re: What Certificate Will Prepare Me to Teach ESL Learning? |
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ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
Hi Everyone,
In truth, I'm an ESL teacher that's mediocre at best. I took a CELTA; but, I feel I didn't learn much or do well.
The good news is, my current employer in China wants a Westerner to teach ESL. They may pay for an additional degree, if I will do it. Can someone answer the following four questions as concisely as possible:
1. What degree in teaching will be the best for me to advance?
Potential choices include:
a. Master's in TEFL/TESOL/etc. (either online or in-person)
b. DELTA
c. PGSE
2. For the DELTA, do costs vary by center, as they do with the CELTA?
3. How long does the DELTA take to complete?
4. How much of the DELTA can be done via distance?
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IIRC, DELTA can only be done when you've taught for X amount of hours, I'm not sure what the number is though. I think 2000? I could be wrong. Someone can clarify that better than me.
PGCEs I believe are more for elementary/secondary school education...again, could be wrong.
TESOL MA could also be a good option. I know several who have gone down that route in UK universities and haven't been steered wrong yet! |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Why are you a mediocre teacher?
I think you need to understand that before you choose a path. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Delta. Or Trinity Dip |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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All info about Delta options, e.g. the distance Delta, can be found on the Cambridge website. But prices vary, as do local entry requirements. As far as I know.
http://thedistancedelta.com/ |
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ebooktrial0001
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 156
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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1. Ok. My question is "where do I go from here"?
I'm guessing the DELTA sounds like a good option. Most of it can be done online (perhaps the prep work for modules 1 and 3). The module 2 can be done in-person and completed.
2. Suppose I get my DELTA, can I teach at Universities, etc. in the Middle East? |
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ebooktrial0001
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 156
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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1. Ok. My question is "where do I go from here"?
I'm guessing the DELTA sounds like a good option. Most of it can be done online (perhaps the prep work for modules 1 and 3). The module 2 can be done in-person and completed.
2. Suppose I get my DELTA, can I teach at Universities, etc. in the Middle East? |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Not likely, I'm afraid. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
1. Ok. My question is "where do I go from here"?
I'm guessing the DELTA sounds like a good option. Most of it can be done online (perhaps the prep work for modules 1 and 3). The module 2 can be done in-person and completed.
2. Suppose I get my DELTA, can I teach at Universities, etc. in the Middle East? |
You're already aware that you can get work via a Saudi contracting company with just your current qualifications. However, for pretty much every Mid East direct-hire university position, you'd need a TEFL-related MA; the Delta alone wouldn't suffice in lieu of a grad degree. On top of it, some employers in the region want to see several years of teaching experience gained after you've received the MA.
ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
In truth, I'm an ESL teacher that's mediocre at best. I took a CELTA; but, I feel I didn't learn much or do well. |
and you wrote: |
I will admit, I don't want to stay in the ESL field forever. Realistically, I am mediocre at best and have only done it for about two years to pay down my undergraduate debt. (From your own thread one year ago: "Is ESL For Losers?"http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=106525 ) |
I have the same question as Santi: Why are you a mediocre teacher? We all start out as novice teachers usually in an entry-level teaching situation. But at the same time, we should be developing professionally through regular classroom observations/evaluations, in-service teacher workshops, specialized certificate courses, TESOL conferences/semininars, and so on. Apparently, that hasn't been your experience---either you've never sought out professional development and just skated by for a paycheck, or it's never been provided at your workplace or in the countries you've taught in. Within the last year, you've asked about getting a k-12 teaching qualification and about a Delta, but never followed through. So, what's your goal and what steps, thus far, have you taken to get there? |
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suphanburi
Joined: 20 Mar 2014 Posts: 916
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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A typical question that is often posed is, "If I get some qualification then where can I find work?".
Perhaps a better set of questions might be:
What work do I want to do?
Where do I want to work (region)?
What remuneration package am I looking for?
Yes, they will require some reflection but ultimately, your chosen path should determine your credentials and not the other way around.
IF you want to head for the tertiary sector then an MA/M.ED TESOL/TEFL is almost mandatory. A decent one will take about 1 year for coursework and 1 year for your thesis or 2 years of coursework and a mini-thesis type of project. The pay in the tertiary sector isn't always great but the hours aren't so onerous either. If you plan to go down this road then a PhD and further research (as a researcher) is also on your horizon.
If you like working with kids and would prefer a nice remuneration package then a post grad certificate in education or a professional teachers certification course would be in order.
A specialization in TESOL/TEFL would also not be out of place but if you are so inclined a specialization in mathematics or the sciences would pretty much assure that your skills will always be in demand.
Remuneration packages in decent international schools are nice (US$50-60k/year) and they usually come with a full benefits package (airfare, medical, housing, family relocation assistance, generous vacations, etc) as well.
This will usually take about a year to complete.
If you want to stay in the private sector (language academies, etc) then CELTA+DELTA or a DipTESOL would likely be the path to follow. Picking up some additional coursework in management or human resources would not be a bad idea either since these grads tend to gravitate to DOS type or admin positions. These typically take 3-6 months to complete.
IF you like to stay where you are in the TEFL field then further professional development in classroom practices and methodology (workshops, seminars/webinars, conferences, SIG's at your local TESOL Chapter, etc.) would probably help you improve as a teacher, share ideas/experiences and connect with others within your local professional community.
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