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McGill / Jubail - Is it really all that bad?
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*bump*

Has there been any new information on this position? has anyone started or left recently?
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some McGilligans currently in the Jubail colleges, but they are working on a (curriculum) project more than teaching. The ones I have met seem to be nice blokes, and look happy enough, so one can assume they are being well treated. None of the ones in this particular corner of Jubail have left recently.
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!
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ebooktrial0001



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Firas still the head person?

He certainly has a reputation there. I do not understand why they don't hire the old veterans of the place back. The American management was okay there.
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tmac-100



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Fifth Column wrote:
McGill U. has a great rep in Canada.

On the the other hand, Brown U. has a great rep in the US. McGill was bought by by JUC & Brown was bought by KFS...

Saudi petro-dollars have bought the US government...the more things change, the more they stay the same...


I DO NOT believe that McGill has been bought by anyone. If true, STATE the definitive reference. Canada says NO that is a blatant bald-faced lie.

Wonder who is such a liar? Are their pants on fire? Rolling Eyes
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that you have misunderstood. I don't believe that he meant "bought" as in owning the main location in the West. He means "bought" as in bribe or pay off or take the big bucks for the right to use their name overseas and pretend to give an equivalent education.

A sadly common situation all over the Gulf and perhaps the world...

VS
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haberstr



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:16 pm    Post subject: The end of the story Reply with quote

Again, the Jubail story ended badly for Firas and McGill.

Good luck to the fine permanent teaching staffs at JIC, JUC, and the technical institute. You deserve the respect and support of higher management. Hopefully this is the last time they will waste money and time on the schemes of Firas and McGill. You guys know what you're doing. You deserve good pay and security, and your schools need smaller class sizes and well-equipped classrooms.
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Captain Willard



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Brown University has Project? Reply with quote

Do you have multiple personality disorder or do you have a tapeworm? Surely, you never studied Latin at Brown University...

ebooktrial0001 wrote:
I'm a Brown University alumni. They have projects in Saudi Arabia?


I knew some people who moved on to greener pastures after the group was dismissed from JIC.
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ebooktrial0001



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when did I say I studied Latin. Indeed, I am a Brown alumni but not a classics major. (They were awesome teachers in that department, even no one, including my roommate, could get a job with that degree).
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is merely being pedantic. In proper Latin, alumnus is singular masculine... and alumni is plural.

But the reality is that in the US, alumni is the pretty much the only form of the word used by everyone other than Latin/Classics majors. Cool

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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*bump*

Does anyone know what the situation is currently at Jubail? It looks like there have been multiple changes but there hasn't been an update by anyone working there in a while.
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
He is merely being pedantic. In proper Latin, alumnus is singular masculine... and alumni is plural.

But the reality is that in the US, alumni is the pretty much the only form of the word used by everyone other than Latin/Classics majors. Cool

VS
Not that you expressed a preference (which, as a descriptivist, I respect), but do you prefer academia or academe?
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yasuke wrote:
*bump*

Does anyone know what the situation is currently at Jubail? It looks like there have been multiple changes but there hasn't been an update by anyone working there in a while.

The McGilligans have gone, so no opportunities there. Six or seven direct-hire staff are leaving JIC this year (of their own free will), one new teacher has arrived (the first in three years); there are plans to bring in lots more students to fill up the new building which was completed about a year ago but still hardly being used; many staff had to teach 25 hours a week this past semester. The ELC would desperately like lots of new teachers, but who knows if the RC is prepared to hire them.
There is a major internal (non-Canadian) project to reform the PYP (there have been several that got squashed by higher powers in anticipation of the MacGillian's farce solving all the world's problems) that looks promising, but if acceptable to the Powers That Be it still won't be introduced until 2016.
The city is nicer than ever, there's now a Lulu Hypermartnopened in Jubail downtown for all your international eating needs, and some new mall getting closer to completion across the road from Fanateer (now looking fairly shabby), so you don't have to go to Khobar for your shopping pleasure.
Despite the name (Industrial City) the residential area is green and without any airborne nastiness that I can detect. In fact I will be almost sorry to leave here. The colleagues are friendly, and the students are too.
As for conditions and salaries, I only know what I get, some of the comparatively recent hires apparently (from their complaints) get a bit less in terms of money and benefits. If you just teach, and manage to avoid positions of responsibility it is still a pretty low-stress place to work. If the salary you're offered isn't what you want, don't accept it. Easy.

BTW my comments disparaging the MacGilligans are not of the individuals hired under false pretenses, they all seemed to be a nice bunch, but rather of the university itself, taking money for trying to destroy the center. SHAME CANADA, SHAME!!
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further update, although completely irrelevant to job-seekers, last week a truck delivered a big load of furniture (desks, chairs, bookshelves) for the McGilligans to the large office in which they were camped during the duration of their now axed program. This morning the ELC course directors are showing off new desks and cabinets, so the project did finally bring some benefit to JIC.

As well as the photocopier we snatched from the aforementioned office after their first failed project.

Disclaimer: All removed items are property of the RCJ, not the Canadians.
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emdog



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: McGill fiasco Reply with quote

Sadly this years McGill version had so much promise. Some colleagues got along and others didn't. Too many egos with some curriculum coordinators.
One guy got fired for supposedly putting the project in jeopardy while another so-called Dr. Anthony totally sabotaged the whole project. That along with our project leaders condescending letters and emails to the Royal Commission. We all thought we had jobs for another year and were totally gutted when told we had to be out of the country one week after our last meeting. Some of us were offered contracts but no one bit the bullet. The guy who screwed the project and us, didn't show up for our workshops, took an early holiday (cleaned out his room with no intent of returning) then had the gall to ask for emergency leave. He probably received all that pay and the one month severance pay--bloody cheek if you ask me.
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