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3701 W.119th
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A pre medical is only a 'requirement' if your school asks for one. Then there's not much you can do but agree, really, if you want the job.
You'll still need to have a medical in the province you're working in when you arrive in China, though. That is the true requirement.
Either way, they should both be paid for by the school (if taken in home country, then reimbursed). |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| 3701 W.119th wrote: |
A pre medical is only a 'requirement' if your school asks for one. Then there's not much you can do but agree, really, if you want the job.
You'll still need to have a medical in the province you're working in when you arrive in China, though. That is the true requirement.
Either way, they should both be paid for by the school (if taken in home country, then reimbursed). |
This answer is so blatantly incorrect I really wish the owner of a thread could delete posts. It also is not relevant to the thread. Please don't respond. |
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3701 W.119th
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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What?
The thread is 'Does Wall Street English reimburse for pre-medical?'
Are you feeling okay?
What a strange post. |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 3701 W.119th wrote: |
What?
The thread is 'Does Wall Street English reimburse for pre-medical?'
Are you feeling okay?
What a strange post. |
A bit harsh on my part. And I think the heat in Mexico is in fact getting to me. Apologies.
But the school (especially in an environment where ESL teachers have quickly become hard to find.) is not going to heap further expense and effort on an applicant to have to do something that will cost them candidates.
The requirement stems from Beijing. It started out the no pre-medical was necessary. Then it was stated that it "should" be done. Should in Chinese left it open to very wide interpretation. Then (as it can be hard to ascertain Chinese public law as in fact much of it is actually not public record) it is believed it was mandatory after the first round of visa changes. Yet the current on record directive since April 2014 is that it is not required, only in the event that the local authorities (not school) believe that there is cause for concern that an applicant's health will be "detrimental" to the PRC. But apparently the local authorities do not know this, or they seem to think that all applicants are inherent AIDS carrying lepers as almost all applicants are required to get them at present.
I have actually not known of any teachers either directly or through a forum such as this who have been reimbursed for the pre-med, save the poster above. The one exception being some of those who have been sent to Hong Kong after arriving in China on an inappropriate visa.
Let's put it this way, if you were your typical penny pinching Chinese school lao da would you dish out 10,000RMB (or whatever the average cost for a pre-med comes out to be) as you wanted to be sure the teacher were in proper health before arriving?
Wall Street of course has some deeper pockets if they need to increase incentives to bring on teachers. My friend shared that they have become desperate for teachers, or at least in his market. They are certainly not every teacher's cup of tea, and every teacher had been in the past certainly not Wall Street's. But I had a curiosity what there policy was at present.
The funny thing about them contacting me is that I had half heartedly sent out some resumes which targeted another geographic area, but I have been absolutely inundated with responses for China. Even much more so than in the past when I was targeting China. The very interesting aspect is that a fair amount are recruiters from other regions of the World who are also now representing Chinese schools. Cheers |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I just got done with a first interview with them, waiting for the second. A bit surprising as I had not been intending to return to China at this time, but thought I would follow this one up.
They do reimburse for the pre-med when required by the local jurisdiction the target school operates in. I also was impressed that they reimburse up to 10,000 for the flight after a month of service, which certainly beats the places offering 6,000 and such, and after a year of service, which can cause issues of course.
So I don't know if I will take up the offer if one is proffered. But I think some classiness on their part in a country where the ESL industry basically lacks any. |
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wujane
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my first job at web paid for the medical now i have moved to shanghai and they want me to pay myself. 700rmb
is it worth me trying to get the money reimbursed or just let it go?
any replies appreciated |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| wujane wrote: |
my first job at web paid for the medical now i have moved to shanghai and they want me to pay myself. 700rmb
is it worth me trying to get the money reimbursed or just let it go?
any replies appreciated |
Make them pay for it. They are desperate. I worked at a pretty good web outside Shanghai and heard generally very bad feedback about the Shanghai ones.
F****** Chinese. When I got bored with my first city another Web had begged me to come work in their city's center. When I asked on salary they informed me after probation I would start with them at the lowest tier as I had not proven myself with them.
BTW, I passed on Wall Street. Second time I have been through this with them. The center managers start getting involved in the hiring process and it takes them forever to get back to you, make decisions etc.. Comes across as very arrogant. The HR people I have dealt with were always top notch. |
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