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adaruby
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 Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:23 am Post subject: Job paying 2000 quid a month in Istanbul. |
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Can I find one? |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Have you got specialist qualifications? Local contacts? Will be tough otherwise. Dershanes don't pay that much without high teaching loads. |
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CVN-76
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Have you got specialist qualifications? Local contacts? Will be tough otherwise. Dershanes don't pay that much without high teaching loads. |
True. I've heard of teachers bragging about their pay in Istanbul. Usually it then leads to my probing for all the truth, which includes how many hours a teacher is expected to work to attain that supposedly great pay. That leads to sheepish admissions such as "35 hours a week teaching", and/ or "working 6 days a week, teaching 6 hours day" or something to that effect. If the pay is good, you can believe that your hours are going to be loonnnngggg. |
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adaruby
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Have you got specialist qualifications? Local contacts? Will be tough otherwise. Dershanes don't pay that much without high teaching loads. |
DELTA etc and a bit of experience in the region itself. Don't know anyone at all in Turkey, but I did speak to a decent place a couple of years ago who were reluctant to pay the cost of getting me there and that's where our chat ended.
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Have you got specialist qualifications? Local contacts? Will be tough otherwise. Dershanes don't pay that much without high teaching loads. |
True. I've heard of teachers bragging about their pay in Istanbul. Usually it then leads to my probing for all the truth, which includes how many hours a teacher is expected to work to attain that supposedly great pay. That leads to sheepish admissions such as "35 hours a week teaching", and/ or "working 6 days a week, teaching 6 hours day" or something to that effect. If the pay is good, you can believe that your hours are going to be loonnnngggg. |
Although I'd work weekends, I wouldn't really be prepared to work more than a 40 hour week (with about 21 contact hours) and would be looking for 2 consecutive weekend days. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Without getting into the usual qualifications debate, I'm not sure the Delta would be considered specialist by anything in the food chain higher than dershanes. A valuable qual, which will be of great use in typical language schools there. But not really valued by many private schools or universities. Unless things have changed drastically recently. But my contacts there have not said... |
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adaruby
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Without getting into the usual qualifications debate, I'm not sure the Delta would be considered specialist by anything in the food chain higher than dershanes. A valuable qual, which will be of great use in typical language schools there. But not really valued by many private schools or universities. Unless things have changed drastically recently. But my contacts there have not said... |
I wouldn't be looking at a uni: a nice number in a quality language centre would suit me perfectly.
And - Without getting into the usual qualifications debate - if they're not considering the DELTA as a specialist EFL qualification, who could possibly want to work there anyway? |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| People with MAs and higher, I guess... |
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adaruby
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Shame they won't have a guaranteed practical component even if they claim to be at the same level as a DELTA qualified teacher, I guess.... |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| That's not how these institutions' hiring committees think of it... |
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misskismet
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| Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| No way. I don't know anyone who gets paid that much - almost 8000TL a month. Not DOSs, not teachers with QTS at the best private schools. |
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quickdrawmgraw
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| If you get a cushy day job, and you also work like a dog in the evenings (basically all day, every day) then you might get close to £2000. The constantly plummeting lira doesn't help your cause. |
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CVN-76
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| True. Get ready to have one day off per week and long teaching days during the week, with probably split shifts to boot. |
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elliot_spencer
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| I know people who make 3000 USD and higher.. There are jobs which pay that much in some Turk Kolejis. You are expected to have a BA in English or related and a CELTA - you must also be a good teacher and have good references.. expect to do a teaching demo and at least 2 interviews. I myself managed to get a job this way paying over 2000GBP. If you get into a good school expect to teach 20 hours (20 x 40 mins) max. |
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CVN-76
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| I interviewed with a kolej in Istanbul (through an agency) about 2 years ago. The pay was very good, and it even rivaled pay in Oman. But late in the interview I was asked "If we don't choose you for this position, would you be interested in working in Saudi Arabia?" That was the end of that. |
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JohnRambo
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Job paying 2000 quid a month in Istanbul. |
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| adaruby wrote: |
I want one.
Can I find one? |
Try Dubai or some other place like that. As far as I know, if you're lucky you might 5500-6000 Turkish Liras, but that is at most $2,300, and that would be at a university. And it's not easy to get into the universities without contacts. If you have a lot of experience, an M.A., and a CELTA, it might be possible. |
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