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hash
Joined: 17 Dec 2014 Posts: 456 Location: Wadi Jinn
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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I ticked: it depends
Here are the circumstances I would disclose my TRUE salary (I occassionally divulge my salary, but it is seldom my TRUE salary.)
The only time I reveal my REAL salary to anyone is when I ALREADY know the other guy's salary ahead of time. If his salary is lower than mine (it usually is), then I readily agree to tell him what mine is and even show him my latest paycheck.
If his salary is HIGHER than mine (and I know about it beforehand), I find some excuse NOT to show him my real paycheck. What I do is make a COPY of my real check and "photo-shop" it so that it shows a much higher salary than the other guy's salary. This is real easy to do if you know how....and over the years, I've become an expert.
Sorry, but that's what I do and that's what he gets for asking in the first place.
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pooroldedgar
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, that's way too much effort when you can simply say, 'eh, enough.'
Second of all, I'm not much of a Marxist, new-leftist kinda guy, but I do believe this whole it's-improper-to-discuss-salary thing was cooked up to by the overlords to keep the masses away from asking the important questions. A world where everyone knows each others' salary is a world in which the bosses can't pull one over on any of us anymore. |
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akoo1
Joined: 06 Apr 2015 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, that's exactly true. Not sharing salary information is a Western custom. It's part of the capitalistic super structure to keep employees in perpetual servitude. Constantly afraid of management and losing their jobs by asking for more money because a colleague got it. This is good for the employer. A staff of quiet workers who don't ask for anything extra. If, however we discussed in honesty our salaries, then we can begin to form some kind of informal union of frank teachers. And finally, get one over (the greedy employer). |
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hash
Joined: 17 Dec 2014 Posts: 456 Location: Wadi Jinn
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| pooroldedgar wrote: |
| A world where everyone knows each others' salary is a world in which the bosses can't pull one over on any of us anymore. |
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| If, however we discussed in honesty our salaries, then we can begin to form some kind of informal union of frank teachers. |
Keep dreaming. In the real world, an honest discussion of salaries simply leads to vicious backbiting, accusations, jealousies, hatred and contempt among the group members.
(Some more "holier than thou" slants on the world as it should be, not as it is.)
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akoo1
Joined: 06 Apr 2015 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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vicious backbiting, accusations, jealousies, hatred and contempt among the group members is happening even when not discussing salaries.
Perhaps, it's a signal to a bigger problem. |
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hash
Joined: 17 Dec 2014 Posts: 456 Location: Wadi Jinn
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| akoo1 wrote: |
vicious backbiting, accusations, jealousies, hatred and contempt among the group members is happening even when not discussing salaries.
Perhaps, it's a signal to a bigger problem. |
Oh, no doubt, no doubt. After all, KSA resembles a state penal institution in more ways than one. A "contract" is really a form of a signed, sealed and delivered sentence to which you've agreed and which you must now serve.
The"rage" I've mentioned usually develops when the honeymoon is over (usually around month 6) when you finally wake up and realize you are not so important after all and that you've been hoodwinked into throwing part of your life away in a hostile environment.
The amazing this is that people keep coming.....and what's worse KEEP COMING BACK !
How many a former KSAer have I seen trundling back (see dictionary.com) with tail between legs after a sojourn in the "Gulf" emirates to which they had absconded thinking it must be better there. It is to POINT, LAUGH and JEER. |
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akoo1
Joined: 06 Apr 2015 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Very Interesting!
This "rage" you talked about. Are there any who manage to avoid or tackle it? How did you fare?
Would member Gujambula be an example of an individual experiencing this rage? I would have thought the rage peaks around April/May (month eight) as the temperatures begin the rise (and exam period starts).
I would have thought NOW is the time of rage. |
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