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Action packed



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:40 pm    Post subject: Is this a good contract? Reply with quote

I was offered 12,000 rmb net of taxes a month (which includes a 3,000 rmb bonus and a 3,000 rmb housing allowance), a 7,000 rmb flight bonus at the end of their contract, and no health insurance for 25 hours of teaching a week. This contract includes 2 non-consecutive days off (Tuesdays & Thursdays). This position is in Beijing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think you should be directing questions at current/former teachers at this school. And of course you might be.
As it would take several days of online question and answer on this forum to get to the nitty gritty, there's not much value in starting.
The only flag I want to fly is the 3K bonus pm which is part of the 12K pm.
If this is discretionary on the part of the employer you really need to know if it is consistently paid. You're only going to get an answer to that from other teachers. If you are to teach anything other than oral you can add 6 hours marking to the contact time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
I really think you should be directing questions at current/former teachers at this school. And of course you might be.
As it would take several days of online question and answer on this forum to get to the nitty gritty, there's not much value in starting.
The only flag I want to fly is the 3K bonus pm which is part of the 12K pm.
If this is discretionary on the part of the employer you really need to know if it is consistently paid. You're only going to get an answer to that from other teachers. If you are to teach anything other than oral you can add 6 hours marking to the contact time.


How do I get in contact with current / former teachers at the school?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You post on this forum - 'Anyone taught/teaches at (named) school?'
You also ask the school to be put in contact with current or past teachers.
Commonly asked question. If they refuse then it's tantamount to a negative review.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this a good contract? Reply with quote

Action packed wrote:
I was offered 12,000 rmb net of taxes a month (which includes a 3,000 rmb bonus and a 3,000 rmb housing allowance), a 7,000 rmb flight bonus at the end of their contract, and no health insurance for 25 hours of teaching a week. This contract includes 2 non-consecutive days off (Tuesdays & Thursdays). This position is in Beijing.


Cost of living is determined by location. Where is it? 3000rmb might not be enough for an apartment.

7000 rmb flight bonus? If you fly from anywhere but Australia, Korea or Japan, the flight will cost well over twice that BOTH ways.

Not even knowing where you're from, I'd decline just based upon the flight "bonus".

What is the 3000 rmb bonus for?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this a good contract? Reply with quote

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote:
Action packed wrote:
I was offered 12,000 rmb net of taxes a month (which includes a 3,000 rmb bonus and a 3,000 rmb housing allowance), a 7,000 rmb flight bonus at the end of their contract, and no health insurance for 25 hours of teaching a week. This contract includes 2 non-consecutive days off (Tuesdays & Thursdays). This position is in Beijing.


Cost of living is determined by location. Where is it? 3000rmb might not be enough for an apartment.

7000 rmb flight bonus? If you fly from anywhere but Australia, Korea or Japan, the flight will cost well over twice that BOTH ways.

Not even knowing where you're from, I'd decline just based upon the flight "bonus".

What is the 3000 rmb bonus for?


You can fly from Shanghai to San Francisco for under 5000 Yuan. Just checked a flight for a month from now, and a lay over of only 2 hours in Taiwan.

I would be wary of the "bonus" as it might be at the discretion of your manager whether or not you earn it every month. Would ask them just to say salary of 9000 + 3000 housing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In regards to the bonus, I would get it unless there are any complaints against me.

I already signed the contract and they are already working on the paperwork for the invitation letter and the visa, etc.

Is it too late to change that part of the contract?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, but ... One of my students complained because I answer curriculum specific questions in class. If I had your contract, I would be working for 3,000 less that month.
Tuhao kids can be brutal.

Besides, you're working for 9,000 plus rent, but BJ is expensive. Your rent might be 4500 all told.

Just my opinion, but I think you can do better.

Oh, I see your last post. If you change your mind - tell them quickly.
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