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Unrung School Bell
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| wangdaning wrote: |
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Here's a thing to consider. These physical exams are very non-evasive and are given over about 20 minutes time by several doctors or medical-pseudo professionals that give not a toss what the results are. They barely pay attention as they examine you.
The school pays for it, a person from the school fills out the forms and speaks Chinese for you, if you cannot, and she may even by you a lollipop afterwards.
So what is the difficulty in getting an exam? The only thing that can go wrong is that you really are sick in some way - possibly in a way you did not know about. If that's the case you have a larger problem than a possible waste of an hour's time and a bit of money. It may even be fortunate that your medical problem has come to your attention earlier than it would have done. |
So, yearly xrays are healthy? |
What makes you think those machies even work? Most of the examiners seem to be just going through the motions. Knowing what do about the way things are run in this country, why would the x-ray machines be running just fine? |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| The actual result of the xray. Guess it could be a recycled one, but really. |
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vikeologist
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| I'm sorry, but have I missed something. Somebody is living or thinking of living in China, and they're worried about the health effects of a yearly X-Ray! |
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Deats
Joined: 02 Jan 2015
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Paying $500 for a medical test in the UK, which won't be accepted when you arrive... then having to pay $100 for a check up in China, where they don't even properly check you.
$600 is not pocket money, especially for someone on a lower salary. It is an utter waste of time and money.
I don't see why in this instance China can't have a set policy. Everyone needs a test when they arrive to China. If you fail you get deported. Then it is up to the teacher to make sure they come with a clean bill of health or they will find themselves a lot of money out of pocket.
I was reading a different forum and people with HIV and hepatitis were moaning that they may or may not get their residence permit approved. They'd hidden these things from their employer as they had seen it was Chinese law not to discriminate against people with these conditions... but really... would you want a kindergarten teacher working with HIV? Really? If it was your kid going to that school? |
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bestteacher2012
Joined: 22 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Deats wrote: |
Paying $500 for a medical test in the UK, which won't be accepted when you arrive... then having to pay $100 for a check up in China, where they don't even properly check you.
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The school will pay for the medical in China, but doubt they will cough up the money for the UK test. |
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Unrung School Bell
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| First time I cam e to work in China, stupid Helen Group insisted I have my med exam before I arrived, and this was for an L visa because Helen is THAT unsavory. Then when I got there, they dismissed the exam as useless and I had to take another. At least they paid for it. |
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Deats
Joined: 02 Jan 2015
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| bestteacher2012 wrote: |
| Deats wrote: |
Paying $500 for a medical test in the UK, which won't be accepted when you arrive... then having to pay $100 for a check up in China, where they don't even properly check you.
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The school will pay for the medical in China, but doubt they will cough up the money for the UK test. |
Yeah I think it's standard for most places to pay for the test in China. It's daft that they make you pay for the one in your home country though, as this is the one that costs an arm and a leg |
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54321
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| would you want a kindergarten teacher working with HIV? Really? If it was your kid going to that school? |
I don't really see why not, since HIV isn't spread through casual contact. Unless you think the teacher is going to be sharing needles or having sex with those kindergarten students (in which case his ass shouldn't be teaching in the school anyway, HIV or no). I lived in Thailand for a couple of years, where 1% of the population has HIV. Statistically speaking, it's a fair bet I've taught students who had HIV, sat on the same bus as people with HIV, and had my food and drink sometimes prepared by people who had HIV.
But I thought this could pretty much never happen anyway, since the one thing that is done properly in the Chinese medical is the blood test? |
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lionheartuk
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Didn't have a medical before I came to China and have only had 3 with the last one being 5 yrs ago. I am in Guangdong and at the same school for 7 yrs. |
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mysterytrain
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| bestteacher2012 wrote: |
The school will pay for the medical in China, but doubt they will cough up the money for the UK test. |
Not always true. Some schools deduct the fee for the med check in-country from the teacher's salary or require the FE to pay it up front. |
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mysterytrain
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Health certificate for your visa |
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| Deats wrote: |
In your experience, have you ever:
1) Had to send a health certificate to your job for them to apply for your invitation?
2) Or have you needed a copy for the embassy to apply for the Z visa?
3) Neither of the above.
I have never needed to do either 1 or 2, I have always just needed a health check once I arrived in China. I'm interested as to what would be seen as 'the norm'.
What have your experiences with the process been? |
For my first job in China (started in 2010), #1 only, followed by another check in-country.
For the job I will be starting in September, #1 and #2. I did the check through a hospital approved by the consulate. My wife, who will come with me, had to have one too.
Actually, when we applied for my Z visa, we already had the checks and just resubmitted the forms. When we applied for TOURIST visas several months ago, we were both required to get medical checks (!) so we just re-used the same ones. I sent scanned copies to the FAO for the application there and submitted photocopies to the consulate.
My FAO has told me that the health authority in Guizhou MIGHT accept our health checks from outside, in which case we MIGHT NOT have to redo the checks in China. Maybe he was serious, maybe he just told me that to shut me up when I complained about the expense of paying for checks in both countries ... we'll see. |
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