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markustm
Joined: 15 Mar 2010 Posts: 95
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:51 am Post subject: Final Word |
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I have news for you Bradley, teaching ESL isn't a pathway to riches, and some people simply enjoy teaching because they can travel, and at the same time earn the money to explore, and experience the country. Indonesia still gives that option.
If you really care about a place, Why don't you return to Indonesia and start a NGO or spend time looking for solutions, rather than sift through the Internet, looking for bad news on Indonesia to post on this forum.
May I ask:
Why you never returned to Indonesia, after all these years, considering you claim you care about the country? |
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mysterytrain

Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 366
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Just a thought |
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One bit of advice would be that life can be tough if you are married to a local, or have children, as nothing is free in Indonesia, so it can create a situation were leaving the country is a better option unless you have a well paid job, but for a single expatriate, Indonesia still can be an interesting place to live in. |
Life can be tough when one is married and / or has children, for sure. That's true in any country. I'm not sure that it is especially true in Indonesia, though there are cultural conditions which may apply. Life can especially be tough if one has married the "wrong" person, or for the "wrong" reasons. (Fortunately I married the right person for the right reasons.)
I do hope you mean by "leaving the country is a better option" leaving the country WITH one's wife and / or children, or to provide a better living for them, as opposed to simply "leaving" them (abandoning them, and no, I'm not assuming that is what you meant, I'm just saying some clarification might be in order).
I am personally leaving the country very soon, not permanently but for a while, and being able to earn more saveable / valuable income in another country is one of the main reasons. My WNI wife is coming with me. |
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bradleycooper
Joined: 12 Apr 2013 Posts: 310
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Markustum, you were previously banned from several threads for homophobic rants. Are you going to try and turn the debate nasty and personal again?
As previously stated, Markustum, you keep pretending you know who I am. You keep confusing me for a different former TBI manager. Stop pretending you know who I am and where I am. There are a great number of people who have been mistreated, threatened or illegally employed by TBI, so don't presume to know who I am.
Furthermore, how do you know I am not holidaying in Indonesia as we speak? How do you know I don't work for an NGO? The truth is I am active in Amnesty International and other organisations which do charitable work in Indonesia. Are you? Or do you just sit around on the Internet abusing people who aren't ''positive'' enough about Indonesia?
Basically, you are free to tout and promote Indonesia as loudly as you want. You can say that's it a wonderful place to travel and work as often as you like. It may even help you to recruit some "lucky'' newbies to your school. But why turn every issue into a personal attack?
If the charms of Indonesia as a teaching destination after the JIS scandal and the 10 drug mule executions were so clear, you probably wouldn't need to be asserting it so loudly on here, would you? |
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princesss
Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 152 Location: japan/indo/aust
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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It is the same story every time Brad. TBI placed an ad on Dave's yesterday and then Markustm comes on bullying everyone who has had the backbone to tell the truth about their dodgy schools.
How.many times have TBI been caught out now offering illegal jobs to people on VKU visas? People can't legally teach on these but TBI keeps running the same scam. If a school can't guarantee you a KITAS within a few weeks of arrival in Indonesia look elsewhere for a job. |
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mysterytrain

Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 366
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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bradleycooper, Princess: the title of this thread is "the plunging rupiah". I don't believe that whatever happened back in the day and / or still happens at a particular chain of language schools is particularly relevant to that topic.
Please, please, please, don't start this ruckus again here. If you want to beat that horse some more, go back to one of the several threads with "TBI" or "no KITAS, no workee legallee" in the title, or start yet another.
Personally, I am interested in the topic "the plunging rupiah". It has relevance for me. Nothing to do with TBI has such relevance for me, nor does it really interest me. Others might feel the same way. Think about it.
Markustm has not mentioned TBI once in this thread, to my knowledge. Nor has he mentioned anything about requirements for working here legally, etc. He was, I believe, discussing some issues relevant to the topic. Please do the same. If you don't want to answer his questions, just don't answer them. If you feel they are inappropriate or in breach of the forum's PG, I suggest that you report his posts to moderators. Really.
Note: I am not taking sides here. I am not at all interested in this family squabble. Period. Please discuss the topic of the thread. |
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princesss
Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 152 Location: japan/indo/aust
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Markustm has been warned how many times not to turn this into a personal slanging match, yet he routinely claims to know who people really are and attribute sinister motives to them. All of which has what to do with the plunging rupiah? He should stick to forum rules and avoid ad hominem attacks. Then there's Mysterytrain who goes through people's posts looking for typos and plays childish games of Gotcha. "'You don't even know the difference between X and Y", time and again. Not at all constructive but he lectures others about being annoying.
As for the rupiah it appears to be a casualty of a number of factors. The possibility of the US raising interest rates in September is a big risk for Indonesia. The mere threat of raising them has given the currency the jitters in the past. The real time of vulnerability is when they do finally rise. Indonesia doesn't appear to be in good shape, but no one will know how serious the impact will be until it happens.
Basically Jokowi has turned out to be a huge disappointment and it is a real concern that Megawati is holding the reigns. He is seen as her puppet and she is seen as being too close with the police chiefs who are notoriously corrupt. I can't see things going smoothly with her calling the shots. I think the economy has much further to fall. She was a lame duck president last time. No one even voted for her but she is in charge again anyway. Can't see it ending well.
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mysterytrain

Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 366
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| princesss wrote: |
| Markustm has been warned how many times not to turn this into a personal slanging match, yet he routinely claims to know who people really are and attribute sinister motives to them. All of which has what to do with the plunging rupiah? He should stick to forum rules and avoid ad hominem attacks. |
I don't see any "ad hominem attacks" from him in this thread. I can't consider a supposition that someone may be "negative towards Indonesia" as ad hominem, per se. It might be considered a touch rude, but ... anyway, bc is quite capable of answering such "charges" or not answering them, and that's up to him. I don't see any claims in this thread about "who people really are", etc. And again,
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