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Dedicated
Joined: 18 May 2007
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Student numbers might be dropping in China, but here in the UK, the numbers are positively surging.
According to the UK Higher Education Statistics Agency for the academic year 2013-2014 there were 87,895 registered Chinese students in the UK.
They appear to be able to pay huge overseas fees and buy expensive properties too..... |
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weigookin74
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| Simon in Suzhou wrote: |
While salaries for ESL teachers have stagnated over the last 5 year or so, it's hard to make too many judgments on the industry based on a few anecdotal closings around you. Heck, the businesses on my block close and re-open with new, eager dreamers every 4 months. It has little to do with the economy or the market and A LOT to do with there being a whole lot of people who are crap at running a business.
The economy in China is at an interesting point right now. Things could nosedive or they could remain about the same. If there isn't a massive collapse, which I don't foresee as the govt will rig things and prop things up to keep it going, then there will be plenty of people with money who are eager to learn English.
I don't agree that there aren't business opportunities here for Chinese people because manufacturing may be going elsewhere. I'm not sure having cheap-labor factories is what drives the ESL market. Chinese people love to consume and there is a pretty strong middle class doing so now. It's a HUGE domestic market. Chinese people believe heavily in education as an investment for their future, and there is no shortage of people who want their kids to study abroad at some point. The only thing I see changing this is a massive anti-west turn by society because of international issues. |
Are wages really down? I've been checking them for 3 or 4 years. They seem to be higher than ever. Lots of 15,000ish and free apartments that didn't exist before. (Free apartments are a new thing?) |
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kungfuman
Joined: 31 May 2012
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Location: In My Own Private Idaho
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Where I work wages are disproportionate to many things.
the boss hired some non-degreed backpacker types working illegally teaching the same thing I do. Paid them 3000y a month.
pays me 18,000y a month.
who do you think has a future at this school? Me, having experience, 2 degrees or the backpackers who hasn't finished university but I'm sure helps the bosses retirement account as most of believe he's pocketing most of their salary?
and there ware 5 or 6 of them working illegally this year. We wonder how many there will be next year. |
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hdeth
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| Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| kungfuman wrote: |
Where I work wages are disproportionate to many things.
the boss hired some non-degreed backpacker types working illegally teaching the same thing I do. Paid them 3000y a month.
pays me 18,000y a month.
who do you think has a future at this school? Me, having experience, 2 degrees or the backpackers who hasn't finished university but I'm sure helps the bosses retirement account as most of believe he's pocketing most of their salary?
and there ware 5 or 6 of them working illegally this year. We wonder how many there will be next year. |
Yes...so many people come here thinking "China is a poor country, we can't expect to make much," and accept some extremely low wage. This is compounded by the fact that Chinese people will pay as little as possible at any opportunity and are ruthless barterers.
Those 15,000 jobs are actually on the low side. I bet a lot of those places would pay 20k for a dependable person, or maybe even a bit more. |
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litterascriptor
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English schools fail all the time here in China. They've been going bust in times of plenty and times of not quite as plentiful as before.
I suppose if I was pressed to give an explanation, I'd blame it on most schools starting up without sufficient reserves to build up a local reputation strong enough to attract long term students. |
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