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returnee2014 · Joined: 06 Jun 2014 Posts: 37 Location: SuliTown, Iraq

In an ad http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/index.cgi?read=36337

I noticed this:

nomad soul · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world

They apparently have a preference for certain dialects.

What mostly caught my eye was their thinking that someone with a TEFL-related MA or PhD and experience would want to apply for such a low-paying job. Those wages are below the average for entry level positions.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Dialects ? Or accents ?

nomad soul · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Such is the hypnotic appeal of Mr T !

I-forgot · Joined: 28 Jun 2015 Posts: 153 Location: Riyadh

I've been told that the salary differential is due to the exchange rate and cost of living in other countries. Although, 11,000 riyals, when changed to Rand, will go much further than 12,000 riyals when changed to pounds.

But I agree with you both that it is an entry level salary no matter what country you are coming from.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Pay should have nothing to do with the country the teacher is from. All of them are living in Saudi Arabia... and if they have the same credentials and experience, the salary and benefits should be the same. Anything otherwise is known as discrimination.

VS

fledex · Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 342

[quote="veiledsentiments"]Pay should have nothing to do with the country the teacher is from. All of them are living in Saudi Arabia... and if they have the same credentials and experience, the salary and benefits should be the same. Anything otherwise is known as discrimination.

VS[/quote]

Or maybe capitalism? Supply and demand?

myohmy · Joined: 31 Jul 2013 Posts: 119

johnslat · Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:14 pm Post subject:

Dear myohmy,

"should have nothing to do with the country . . . " = expressing an opinion about how matters in a just/fair world would be.

Or do you disagree that's how it should be?

Regards,
John

I-forgot · Joined: 28 Jun 2015 Posts: 153 Location: Riyadh

VS is right - it shouldn't have anything do to with it.

Myohmy is also right - equality is Saudi Arabia seems like an absurd concept once you have been there for any length of time.

The lack of equality is hugely visible from the way in which people are treated going through immigration at the airport, the way students treat their teachers of different races and nationalities, the way police treat people going through checkpoints.

And I've just realised that none of the examples I had in mind when I wrote the paragraph above relate to gender equality. Let's not get started on that one.....

On the plus side, once you've got a job as a teacher, employers seem to treat all warm bodies equally (badly?).

Gamajorba · Joined: 03 May 2015 Posts: 357

South Africans are cheaper to hire at the end of the day. And their accents are also one of the worst (IN MY OPINION, not anyone elses) in the Anglophone world. Not to mention that most that I have come across are deranged lunatics.

buravirgil · Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:24 pm Post subject:

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Afrikaners tend to be individualists. They do not often hold liberal attitudes on Race Relations. Their accents are no worse than those from Australians, Other Colonials, or, Godforbid those with Pukkah RP ! When I hear that English Public School drawl I reach for my AK-47 !