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Darrengoddard
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 Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:16 am Post subject: Process for getting a job in China |
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Hi everyone
We have signed a contract with a school in china, done the medical and all the other things necessary.
And now th ey are asking for reference letters.
Is this normal.
The agency we are using is horizon in zhengzhou and the school is called China Australia college
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Darren Goddard & Lesley Walker |
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Brunouno
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| Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, quite normal. My FAO requested reference letters. |
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Non Sequitur
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Probably following some edict from the Oz side.
I've not been asked for these by Chinese schools. |
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talentedcrayon
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| Some want it. Most couldn't be bothered. |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:09 am Post subject: |
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The reference letters are very likely being asked for by the local jurisdiction for the two years of experience requirement. They SHOULD have mentioned that the reference letters need to include the dates of employment so they can do the math. Some jurisdictions are taking this route post the 2013-2014 visa changes.
Considering the general desperate state of most Chinese schools to fill positions, and recruiters desire to do nothing more than make a quick RMB from placing a foreign teacher in China, it is highly unlikely this requirement is stemming from them.
You will most likely be asked for other things too once you complete this. A fair amount of these schools and agents are lost when it comes to the constantly changing requirements. On top of that Chinese prefer to string foreigners along like this so you become invested in the process and it becomes hard to break it. If they presented everything up front, they know more foreigners would balk and walk away. |
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Darrengoddard
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:42 am Post subject: Process for getting a job in China |
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Thanks for the repluse
The recruiter is n ow asking that we go on a tourist visa and then we will get the z visa later. Is this legal in zhengzhou |
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Jmbf
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rogerwilco
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| jimpellow wrote: |
| On top of that Chinese prefer to string foreigners along like this so you become invested in the process and it becomes hard to break it. If they presented everything up front, they know more foreigners would balk and walk away. |
My experience has been that most of them are too disorganized to think of asking for everything needed in only one email. |
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roadwalker
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Process for getting a job in China |
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| Darrengoddard wrote: |
Thanks for the repluse
The recruiter is n ow asking that we go on a tourist visa and then we will get the z visa later. Is this legal in zhengzhou |
No it's not. It might be possible for some schools with connections to send you to Hong Kong later to get a z-visa, or not. More to the point, if you go over on a tourist visa, you have taken all of the risk onto yourself. They don't like you? They no longer need a teacher? Sorry, you lose (you are out of a job and still have no right to work). On the other hand, if they do hire you but haven't gotten around to getting you (or can't get you) into legal status and the government inspectors come around, don't expect to be able to avoid a fine or even a deportation just because "they told me it was ok!"
If you're not qualified for a z-visa and you are set on working in China, at least know the risks. If you are qualified, save yourself the headache, the monetary loss and the aggravation by insisting on going the legal route; the z-visa entry. A school that sponsors a teacher for a z-visa has skin in the game: they have spent money, time and efforts to get the permission and documents from government agencies and have agreed to be responsible for the teacher that they invite to work. |
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Darrengoddard
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: |
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The school has found someone else to go on a tourist visa.
We will have to wait a bit longer.
Thanks for the info. Rather be safe than sorry |
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