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rtm
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| nightsintodreams wrote: |
| RTM It's not about maths. C'mon, you've been in Japan long enough to know that a 40 hour work week is rarely only 40 hours. |
Oh, I know that. I was just talking about the ad itself, which I would take to indicate that they are advertising a 5-day/week job. Whether they actually stick to that is something entirely different. |
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Rooster.
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not rich, and I'm not that desperate. But it's the first time I've seen a monthly salary that low. |
I've seen one as low as 150,000 yen per month. |
Was the job out in the sticks? |
I don't remember, but anywhere it is too low. Yes, you could make it work, but that would be very difficult. No housing was provided either. |
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nightsintodreams
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Current affairs, I really don't understand the hate I'm getting from you for this.
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Y250,000 - Y270,000 monthly depending on qualifications (based on a six day working week (avg 28 teaching hrs/wk))
8 Weeks of School Holidays per year |
Look at their old listing. It also lists 28 hours but states that its a six day working week.
The truth is, we can't tell from simply reading this new advert how many days you'll be working at his company, but I'm inclined to believe it's six because the old advert for the same position states as much. |
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mitsui
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Indeed. It sure could be six days a week, with the teacher having to drive around.
With commuting time, only someone already living in southern Ibaraki would take such a job. |
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weigookin74
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:30 am Post subject: |
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The Filipino teachers will be all over this job.
This is another middle man recruiting agency that dispatches teachers to junior high schools. Their cut is huge, I assume. 50% - 70%, maybe?
185,000円 a month for a 5 or 6 day work week. WOW! Japan EFL continues to reach new lows. |
This is something of a concern. Ive met some obviously very good teachers from the Phillipines, but it wouldnt surprise me if they are being used to cut the wage bills. I hope this isnt the case |
Parents in Japan wouldn't demand a whitey over a Filipino for their child? That would still allow for you to make more That's the way it was when I was in Korea. Lot's of mothers wanted their kids to meet a white teacher, hence the higher wage. Only when they couldn't get a whitey in a rural area would they settle for a Filipino.
But 185,000 for a job and you still have to pay for your housing? Maybe 200,000 with free housing would be an option. Either way, get the eff out of dodge. China's hiring. No way an EFL teacher has to take that crap. Only reason to be in Japan is to experience the culture for a year once you've paid off your debts in Korea or where ever. But, it's basically a break even thing where you won't leave Japan any richer or making any more money.
Shame Japan hasn't gotten their act together. But to each their own. |
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Nemu_Yoake
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I don't understand you. You want to be teachers in Japan and all you do is talking about money, money and money. Of course, having a great salary like 25 man would be wonderful for a newbie, but do you know how much Japanese teachers make at a private school? For beginners, it's about 18 man in my prefecture (Iwate). And you have to pay taxes, and your housing etc.
It's higher in some other prefectures (or so I heard) but it's not so much in rural prefectures.
Sure, salaries are getting lower and lower, that's a fact. But new Japanese teachers have a low salary too, even when they work at a public school. It's about 20-22 man in rural prefectures, depending on the type of teaching license they own (basic license or specialized license, ES, JHS or HS license).
For experienced ALTs, well, it's up to you to negotiate to get paid what you're worth. |
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RM1983
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True but we have to uproot and go through the travais of living abroad and dealing with the mess of the those Japanese teachers.
They cant attract lots of professionals because they dont pay a professional wage or offer professional conditions. And then whats the number one complaint about us? |
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rxk22
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Japanese teachers are also perm employees so they can start with less. The stability and raises makes up for the low starting wages. While we never get any meaningful raises |
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