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Z visa sponsored by part time job. Possible?
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t-doo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:20 pm    Post subject: Z visa sponsored by part time job. Possible? Reply with quote
Hi all...

I currently work in Korea and have for a long time. I've never taught in China, but am considering it due to the crappy downturn of the efl industry here.

What I'm wondering is....is it possible/plausible to have your work visa sponsored by a part time job? There are jobs here in Korea that will do it(like a 3-4hr kindy gig) and give you permission to take side jobs. They usually don't offer any of the perks like housing, pension etc...but with a second job you can easily make up for it and then some.

Anything like that available in China?

I'm also wondering which cities have the highest demand for learning English? I may have to make a seperate post for that though.

Thanks.
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Brunouno



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why not take a full-time public school job and work in the evenings part-time? Sometimes the easiest way of going about things is the best way. I would be more concerned about finding a decent employer rather than concentrating on finding someone who will offer a Z visa with part-time work.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, there are. I would, of the chains I know that do it, look at Wall Street first. They have 3-4 options.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think most state sector jobs could be regarded as part time in that they usually involve around 16 contact hours pw and no Sat or Sun duties.
Although contracts usually state 'no outside work' I've found that as long as you don't rub their noses in it you can manage something.
What space is available in your schedule to take on privates depends on your individual timetable and you likely won't get that until the evening before your classes start.
With luck or a bit of schmoozing you can get one whole day free Mon-Fri.
Remember though that private students also have day jobs and/or classes so likely best pickings are on weekends.
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t-doo



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brunouno wrote:
Why not take a full-time public school job and work in the evenings part-time? Sometimes the easiest way of going about things is the best way. I would be more concerned about finding a decent employer rather than concentrating on finding someone who will offer a Z visa with part-time work.


To maximize potential earnings, have control over my own schedule, spend time on other interests instead of working 8+ hrs/day and then teach privates.
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Brunouno



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
t-doo wrote:
Brunouno wrote:
Why not take a full-time public school job and work in the evenings part-time? Sometimes the easiest way of going about things is the best way. I would be more concerned about finding a decent employer rather than concentrating on finding someone who will offer a Z visa with part-time work.


To maximize potential earnings, have control over my own schedule, spend time on other interests instead of working 8+ hrs/day and then teach privates.


Sounds like a great plan. All you need to do now is:

Find an employer who will go through the rigmarole of a visa for a part-timer;

Find an employer who won't give you split shifts (even for a part-time gig!);

Find an employer who will allow you to control your own schedule;

Live in a city AND area where privates are available;

Find privates who will come to your apartment, so you have time to do your 'interests';

Charge enough to make up for all the public, winter and summer holiday pay you'll miss out on.

You're making at least 2 grand a month in Korea with free accommodation (most likely). How much are you planning on making a month in China?
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t-doo



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brunouno wrote:
t-doo wrote:
Brunouno wrote:
Why not take a full-time public school job and work in the evenings part-time? Sometimes the easiest way of going about things is the best way. I would be more concerned about finding a decent employer rather than concentrating on finding someone who will offer a Z visa with part-time work.


To maximize potential earnings, have control over my own schedule, spend time on other interests instead of working 8+ hrs/day and then teach privates.


Sounds like a great plan. All you need to do now is:

Find an employer who will go through the rigmarole of a visa for a part-timer;

Find an employer who won't give you split shifts (even for a part-time gig!);

Find an employer who will allow you to control your own schedule;

Live in a city AND area where privates are available;

Find privates who will come to your apartment, so you have time to do your 'interests';

Charge enough to make up for all the public, winter and summer holiday pay you'll miss out on.

You're making at least 2 grand a month in Korea with free accommodation (most likely). How much are you planning on making a month in China?


I wish I knew. I currently send home $500/mth or more. But I also get severance and pension....so if I were to move to China I would like to send at least that much home+ another 5 grand or so a year to make up for the lost pension/severance(assuming I wouldn't be getting them in China). Would also like to afford a decent lifestyle. Nothing too spectacular, but enough to afford being social(yes, I drink).

You think it would be tough getting a sponsor for a part time job, huh? That's what I was afraid of. Will look into WSI though.
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Brunouno



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Get the part-time idea out of your mind. Your thinking needs to be reversed. Get an easy full-time job (do what me and the other guy said, and find a public school gig). You'll then get free accommodation or an allowance and paid public/winter/summer holidays. Your plan won't work, and you'll either end up busting your balls making the same as Korea or less.

Don't make life difficult for yourself!
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Public Unis and high schools don't generally have office hours. There are some expectations outside the classroom, but not many (contest judging, English corners etc). So you wouldn't be stuck 8 hours a day most days.