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thunder_god
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 Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:35 pm Post subject: Having trouble sending emails to school's in China |
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I've tried to apply to a few school's directly but I always get this message:
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
I'm using gmail to send out my job applications. Its getting really frustrating. Is the Chinese government censoring emails? |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Where are you sourcing the email addresses? |
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Aristede
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Having trouble sending emails to school's in China |
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| thunder_god wrote: |
I've tried to apply to a few school's directly but I always get this message:
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
I'm using gmail to send out my job applications. Its getting really frustrating. Is the Chinese government censoring emails? |
Gmail used to be fine in China, but unreliable now. This is probably because China has butted heads with Google. Best to use a non-gmail account. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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This is the possessive form ..."the school's facilities are top notch."
The plural of school has no apostrophe ..."the schools are not hiring at the moment."
Sorry to be pedantic, but you made this mistake twice, including once in the topic line of the thread, and this is a forum for English language teachers. This is the kind of pretty basic error that makes one look bad in the eyes of potential employers, because they won't be able to be sure you won't teach incorrect forms to their students. |
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thunder_god
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| Where are you sourcing the email addresses? |
The email addresses are from yahoo.
Any ways I tried creating a yahoo email account and resending it out as well but still encountered the same problem. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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By 'sourcing' I mean do you get the email address from the school website or from a Wikipedia page?
What about signing up for a Chinese email provider.
If Gmail and Yahoo are blocked then I guess the Chinese see a beneficiary as a local provider. |
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thunder_god
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
By 'sourcing' I mean do you get the email address from the school website or from a Wikipedia page?
What about signing up for a Chinese email provider.
If Gmail and Yahoo are blocked then I guess the Chinese see a beneficiary as a local provider. |
I found it directly from the school website. I've gotten rid of the recruiters and compiled a list of all of the universities in each city I would like to live in and have fired off an email to each one. Some of them get through, while others don't so perhaps it might just be at their inbox is full. Any ways I'm on the verge of just giving up teaching in China altogether and looking to teach somewhere else in SE Asia. It's been one headache after another. Everything from the blatant racism and discrimination, to the crappy air quality, low pay, getting cheated and scammed, and the censorship is really making me think twice about teaching in China. |
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Non Sequitur
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Doing missionary selling i.e. no stated vacancy is always a tough call. I only did it after I had applied for the vacancies actually advertised or was approached as a result of being on SeriousTeachers.
Getting started in China isn't for the faint-hearted and of course you allude to cultural issues. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Any ways I'm on the verge of just giving up teaching in China altogether and looking to teach somewhere else in SE Asia. It's been one headache after another. Everything from the blatant racism and discrimination, to the crappy air quality, low pay, getting cheated and scammed, and the censorship is really making me think twice about teaching in China. |
It's not meant to be. Focus on getting a job somewhere in your home country in order to save money for a TEFL course and startup costs before contemplating opportunities elsewhere. |
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3701 W.119th
Joined: 26 Feb 2014
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| Any ways I'm on the verge of just giving up teaching in China altogether and looking to teach somewhere else in SE Asia. It's been one headache after another. Everything from the blatant racism and discrimination, to the crappy air quality, low pay, getting cheated and scammed, and the censorship is really making me think twice about teaching in China. |
I'm far from a China apologist (plenty of them here), but this seems a bit harsh. Many Chinese are pretty ignorant, yes, and the air is bad, and the internet is censored for anyone without a VPN (does anyone here not use a VPN?). Low pay, though? Man, we get paid more than doctors in some provinces. As for cheating, scamming, I've not encountered it, but I like to think I have a fairly good nose for when someone's taking the Michael.
Anyway, for your own sanity (as much as the other FTs you'll come into contact with), I'd look somewhere else. If you're mad about these things now, it'll go up to 11 when you actually live here. And (all due respect), we could do without another FT here who hates everything about the country and constantly moans about how shit it is. There're also plenty of them here  . Like you seem to be looking to do, many are escaping shitty situations back home, thinking China would be the gravy train. It's not. |
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bluetortilla
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Location: Henan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| 3701 W.119th wrote: |
| thunder_god wrote: |
| Any ways I'm on the verge of just giving up teaching in China altogether and looking to teach somewhere else in SE Asia. It's been one headache after another. Everything from the blatant racism and discrimination, to the crappy air quality, low pay, getting cheated and scammed, and the censorship is really making me think twice about teaching in China. |
I'm far from a China apologist (plenty of them here), but this seems a bit harsh. Many Chinese are pretty ignorant, yes, and the air is bad, and the internet is censored for anyone without a VPN (does anyone here not use a VPN?). Low pay, though? Man, we get paid more than doctors in some provinces. As for cheating, scamming, I've not encountered it, but I like to think I have a fairly good nose for when someone's taking the Michael.
Anyway, for your own sanity (as much as the other FTs you'll come into contact with), I'd look somewhere else. If you're mad about these things now, it'll go up to 11 when you actually live here. And (all due respect), we could do without another FT here who hates everything about the country and constantly moans about how shit it is. There're also plenty of them here . Like you seem to be looking to do, many are escaping shitty situations back home, thinking China would be the gravy train. It's not. |
I love China! You can have SE Asia, China is for real. 
As far as govt.'s go- well, anyone know of a good govt.? Some are better or worse...I'd say if China is driving you nuts, learn the language. Learn the history. |
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3701 W.119th
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I agree with you! I think it's class here.
If I didn't, I'd be on the next flight home/somewhere-else-in-the-world. Life's too short. |
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