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mysterytrain

Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 366
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| theoriginalprankster wrote: |
I scored with my new job - paid my flight back to my country, on the way they put me up at a 4 star hotel in HK as they had to courier the invite letter to me before I headed back (and my old Chinese visa was done), they paid the cost of the Z visa, flight back, health check, and put me up in free accommodation until I find a suitable apartment - if I don't have sufficient money for the 3 months + 1 month deposit they'll forward some cash, and deduct over a few months.
I also spent all my savings on a year long sabbatical (went travelling and recuperating from 10 years in China).
Now I'm back, in Shanghai, and working a 40 hour week - man oh man, it takes some adjusting.
But it's 20K/m after tax, so I should be saving some good dosh. Looking forward to my next vacation somewhere in SEA! |
Well done. I noticed that you were looking into working in several other countries in SEA over the last year. I worked in Indonesia the last four years in a decent-paying job, but the economic situation there has gone increasingly towards sh*t: my savings for the four years, unfortunately all in ruoiah, started looking smaller and smaller when compared against the USD (or any strong currency) and inflation in-country creeps up prices steadily. I looked into Vietnam, Myanmar, etc, and I have a strong interest in working in Turkey someday, but the ecomomic / political situation is sh*t there too.
Basically, other than SK or Japan (where I hear it's really hard to save money), China seems to offer the best "return for investment" of a FT's time and effort in Asia, so I'm not surprised to see you coming back. I'm not sure how long I''ll stay, but for now I have a job that gives me a chance to save a decent amount and try to build those savings back up - in a strong / stable currency, to boot.
The boss of my school is sponsoring a trip for Mid-Autumn / National Day to Sanya. For teachers, he is paying about 1500 yuan and the teachers only have to pay 500 (includes bus / flight and accommodation, for four days). Unfortunately, because I have a spouse with me, I would have to pay for the the full cost for her, plus the 500 for me, so about 2500 yuan plus another 500 or so for food, etc, I'd guess. Or else I'd have to go without her, which is out of the question, so I regretfully turned down the offer. We just can't afford to throw away another 400 USD right now, with all that's been drained out of our savings in the last six months. |
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weigookin74
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 265
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Unrelated, if you take a uni job, you get medical coverage? Is it a local clinic and is it substandard or is it decently ok? Do, you have to go to a big city for good care or just fly to another country? Home or nearby like Korea or something like that? |
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mattyko40
Joined: 05 Aug 2014 Posts: 37 Location: Taipei
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| weigookin74 wrote: |
| Unrelated, if you take a uni job, you get medical coverage? Is it a local clinic and is it substandard or is it decently ok? Do, you have to go to a big city for good care or just fly to another country? Home or nearby like Korea or something like that? |
Every Uni job I have seen offers some sort of insurance. This varies widely from reimbursing 90% of cost to one that only reimbursed 70% to a rather low limit. Also, If you are at a medical college they usually don't have insurance, but they will give care at the school.
Healthcare will vary widely to almost western standards in Shanghai international clinics to basically voodoo, err traditional medicine, in poor provinces. Your insurance will not cover you in an international clinic though. It is extremely hard to find western medications in 3rd tier cities and if they are Chinese generics there is always a quality worry.
There has been Aids and hepatitis epidemics caused by government hospitals not cleaning centrifuges properly and then covering it up and not telling the public. So, watching the news will not help much. In fact, they just passed a law barring local health officials from declaring epidemics. It's no wonder when a new dieses is found and broadcast on international news that everyone wonders- Africa or China?
What to do if something happens? Well what country do you live in and why would you think of going to Korea? Do you think they want to do free healthcare for you? There is travelers insurance but I would recommend having a few grand US and insurance(govt or personal) back home. If it's an appendix break you have no choice, but if its cancer or something that can be put off for a week you're best going home.
Healthcare along with 90%+ of all problems you face here are mitigated or eliminated with a few grand. |
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3701 W.119th
Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Posts: 386 Location: Central China
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:57 am Post subject: |
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My university has a little clinic on campus, free for teachers. It's very good, I hear, for minor stuff, like chest infections or flu or broken bones or whatever. For anything serious you should head to your provincial capital, which will have a good hospital.
Although, to be fair, if I ever had a serious medical issue - anything that was in any way life-threatening - I'd be on the first flight back home. |
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hdeth
Joined: 20 Jan 2015 Posts: 583
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:03 am Post subject: |
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My uni job had a clinic on campus that was reputedly horrible....the people basically had no training at all. They covered some of the costs for injuries but can't remember how much.
Current high school has the best insurance I've ever seen. We can go to some of the not-too-expensive international hospitals and they cover 100% of anything but dental and vision, up to a very high limit.
I've ended up having to pay for all my medical tests. They should at least pay for the one in China but my old FAO was a real piece of work. |
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bbbrisco
Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for joining in late, but I don't check these boards very often. I taught in Nanchang (but at JUFE, not NIT) in 2012, and can perhaps offer a few suggestions.
First off, switching from Sept 1 to Oct 1 is not alarming at all - the first year students all have compulsory military training for the month of Sept, with classes starting in Oct. So likely, they just juggled the schedule to give your upper year classes (if any) to other teachers and put you down for the late starting freshmen.
My apartment at JUFE was quite decent, in a nice gated enclave that looked and felt quite secure. The construction was kinda, well, Chinese (ie half inch gaps in between patio doors), but overall a pleasant surprise.
The alleged kitchen utensils consisted of a rusty wok and various other bits and pieces I don't think anyone would ever actually use.
One surprise was the complete lack of towels - I arrived at 11pm and had to dry off with a spare bed sheet until I got to the store and bought (crappy) towels on the following day. I'd make sure you have about 1000 RMB in cash on hand, although the ATM's are easy enough to use by guessing at the Chinese or Chinglish menu options.
Finally, I thought Nanchang would be relatively warm, like South Carolina. It was brutally hot in Sept, but then got quite cold in Dec, and I hadn't brought much cold-weather gear. The classrooms are not heated, and the space heaters in the apartment left much to be desired for those of us used to central heat. I'm from Canada and I still found it kinda miserable.
I do seem to recall that 2012 was reported as being unusually cold for Nanchang, but just a heads up to be prepared. To make matters worse, I'm a XXL, so finding stuff to buy was almost impossible.
Finally, there is a legit Apple store downtown (think it was called Coodoo) and when my laptop died I was forced to buy a new Macbook Air. The price seemed about the same as what Apple charged in the US (but converted to RMB) and the service was good. Selection was a little limited, so I had to buy a cheaper 4gb/128gb model or be stuck without a laptop while waiting for a custom build to arrive. There are also many illicit Apple resellers near Bayi plaza so be careful if you decide to purchase anything over there.
Good luck! I enjoyed my time in Nanchang, and would have gone back this year but couldn't talk the school down from 20 teaching hours per week.
Edit: Oh, forgot to mention something that is likely to be of concern to someone coming with a minimal amount of cash. Seemed we were constantly hit up for ~100Y 'deposit' fees here and there in the first few weeks. Deposit for the apartment key, pre-paying for the first months electricty, fee to get your dining hall meal card, money to open a Chinese bank account (needed). Many of these were returned at the end of the year, but you should be prepared. |
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