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CNexpatesl
Joined: 27 May 2015 Posts: 194
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:19 am Post subject: SAT Teaching |
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I landed an interview for a gig as an SAT teacher/Test Prep Instructor. They want me to do a demo basically covering only grammar, vocabulary, and reading comprehension.
I've never done a demo for this type of work before. Can anyone who has tell me what these companies are usually looking for in a demo? Appreciate any tips. |
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buravirgil
Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Posts: 967 Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| How much does it pay? I mean, how much are my tips worth? |
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teenoso
Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 365 Location: south china
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know anything about SATs, but I've heard that students want a 'codebreaker' for these standardised tests - so I suggest you take one typical question format, and show in your demo how to answer as quickly and efficiently as possible.
There was a thread a while back on SAT teaching , where it seemed common practice in these schools that teachers were expected to take the test and achieve almost perfect scores to demonstrate their ability (!) |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou

Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Followup to teenoso: If the OP takes this approach, I suggest that he bone up on the first few chapters of Princeton Review's prep book. It discusses strategies.
Kaplan and Baron go into strategies, but not to the same degree as Princeton Review.
It might be good to present the simple strategies (e.g.read the questions before reading the text). You'll find these suggestions in both Kaplan and Baron. This is one "trick" in gaining an advantage in Reading comprehension. Some questions will contain some actual words from a section of the excerpt. The one taking the test can remain alert to this fact. Anything beyond that really requires greater reading experience, and there's really nothing that can be done to improve comprehension in a few weeks. Most of the prep books exist to give the test taker experience working with material of similar depth and complexity.
For vocabulary, try to find a demo page from Word Power or any advanced vocabulary list. Create flash cards. (It would be better if you used actual words from Kaplan or Baron). Explain how students will retain more if they create their own flash cards and read the definition aloud repeatedly as they make more and more flash cards. Speaking the definition aloud reinforces the reading. Continual exposure also reinforces the learning process.
You should use the same approach for the Greek and Latin prefixes and suffixes and demonstrate how knowing the most common ones will help the student to make an educated guess regarding the meaning of a word.
Working with analogies: This really stumps a LOT of students, especially E2 students. Approach them by a process of elimination and skip the ones that they just can't figure out or make an educated guess. (This is true of ALL answers on the test).
BE SURE to point out to the people doing the interview that it is very important that one who administers the test (even practice tests) read the instructions aloud to the students. This is one small detail that they'll be listening for.
I was Kaplan certified, and I have six years experience working in this area. The students who performed the best began the program before high school and continued in the program until they took the test. A few weeks really won't make much of a difference.
If I still had my materials, I'd tell you more.
Caveat, when Xiao Wang fails the test miserably, be prepared. It will be your fault, not Xiao Wang and his video games. |
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buravirgil
Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Posts: 967 Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
| I was Kaplan certified,... |
Under Grayer? The Harvard whiz of marketing.
Anti-trust suits, unqualified instructors as recently as 2015. (Wikipedia)
But it's good to see you at a public university and contributing to a greater society than the options pursued by many.
What's an E2 student Bud? |
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hdeth
Joined: 20 Jan 2015 Posts: 583
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| teenoso wrote: |
There was a thread a while back on SAT teaching , where it seemed common practice in these schools that teachers were expected to take the test and achieve almost perfect scores to demonstrate their ability (!) |
This is for the top teachers, who are usually Asian or ABC. They are outside the realm of normal TEFL and charge exorbitant rates. Most SAT teaching in China is more like a focused reading comprehension/academic writing class. And yes, they expect you to have near perfect SAT scores and/or ivy league credentials for the top jobs, but those top jobs are an extremely small percentage of SAT teaching. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou

Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| hdeth wrote: |
| teenoso wrote: |
There was a thread a while back on SAT teaching , where it seemed common practice in these schools that teachers were expected to take the test and achieve almost perfect scores to demonstrate their ability (!) |
This is for the top teachers, who are usually Asian or ABC. They are outside the realm of normal TEFL and charge exorbitant rates. Most SAT teaching in China is more like a focused reading comprehension/academic writing class. And yes, they expect you to have near perfect SAT scores and/or ivy league credentials for the top jobs, but those top jobs are an extremely small percentage of SAT teaching. |
This is a bizarre requirement. One cannot teach SAT. The "A" in SAT stands for "assessment" (previously "aptitude"). The test measures the skills acquired over time. In the verbal section of most of the SAT books, there are lists of words and prefixes, examples of analogies, passages from different types of sources for critical reading, and other things. The best that one can do in such a class is to coach the student and to exercise what he has already acquired so that he can perform at his optimal level. There is no magic formula.
Someone who has a perfect score is not necessarily more competent to guide the student through the exercises in the SAT prep books. Besides, someone who scored extremely high on the SAT on both the verbal and the mathematics isn't likely to be working in China as an examiner, and he certainly won't be found working in a mill in The U.S. working for $15.00 per hour.
Sorry to go off-topic. OP, try to get a copy of a Baron or Kaplan SAT prep book. It'll guide you in your own preparation for your demo. I'd present more information, but it has been 12-15 years since I've even looked at an SAT prep book. |
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hdeth
Joined: 20 Jan 2015 Posts: 583
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
| hdeth wrote: |
| teenoso wrote: |
There was a thread a while back on SAT teaching , where it seemed common practice in these schools that teachers were expected to take the test and achieve almost perfect scores to demonstrate their ability (!) |
This is for the top teachers, who are usually Asian or ABC. They are outside the realm of normal TEFL and charge exorbitant rates. Most SAT teaching in China is more like a focused reading comprehension/academic writing class. And yes, they expect you to have near perfect SAT scores and/or ivy league credentials for the top jobs, but those top jobs are an extremely small percentage of SAT teaching. |
This is a bizarre requirement. One cannot teach SAT. The "A" in SAT stands for "assessment" (previously "aptitude"). The test measures the skills acquired over time. In the verbal section of most of the SAT books, there are lists of words and prefixes, examples of analogies, passages from different types of sources for critical reading, and other things. The best that one can do in such a class is to coach the student and to exercise what he has already acquired so that he can perform at his optimal level. There is no magic formula.
Someone who has a perfect score is not necessarily more competent to guide the student through the exercises in the SAT prep books. Besides, someone who scored extremely high on the SAT on both the verbal and the mathematics isn't likely to be working in China as an examiner, and he certainly won't be found working in a mill in The U.S. working for $15.00 per hour.
Sorry to go off-topic. OP, try to get a copy of a Baron or Kaplan SAT prep book. It'll guide you in your own preparation for your demo. I'd present more information, but it has been 12-15 years since I've even looked at an SAT prep book. |
They've either done a masterful job faking their credentials or they really do have such scores. One of my students was showing me a program where they had before and after photos of students scores (increase of 200 points or so) and the cost was 36k or something to hire the guy as sort of a consultant/tutor combo. I think the normal program was like 200y per person for a class of 20 or so...you do the math.
I won't get into the argument of teaching to the test and the validity of tests in general as it's already been done ad nauseum on this forum. Or the rumored ways in which some training center groups can get the answers to the SAT for their students. It's all been done.
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And I do remember seeing some SAT tutoring jobs where they only wanted a person with X score or from certain ivy league schools. As someone with a cousin who went to an ivy league school and ended up selling shoes for a living, I can tell you that not everyone who graduates from those schools ends up at an amazing job. |
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