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1chunk



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:52 pm    Post subject: PYP cutbacks! Reply with quote

Hi guys,

Keep an eye out next summer and in the short-medium term. You will see reduction in the PYPs and some closures. King Saud university and Princess Noura are two of them... Low oil prices will no doubt affect us all.

FYI of course Wink

All the best.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The source of this info?
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1chunk



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
The source of this info?


Let's just say some trusted sources..If that's not good enough then time will tell. Wink
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mystic Meg ?
The Oracle at Delphi ?
The Tarot ?

Are you aware of the penalties for Necromancy and Soothsaying in KSA ?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1chunk wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
The source of this info?

Let's just say some trusted sources..If that's not good enough then time will tell.

Likely one or two contracting companies like ICEAT, EdEx, SBC, etc., that don't expect to fill umpteen positions in the future.
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In the heat of the moment



Joined: 22 May 2015
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very important 'fact' that's backed up by absolutely no evidence? I believe we are in TEFL-country.
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MENA_chica



Joined: 28 Sep 2014
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Location: Middle East

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: PYP cutbacks! Reply with quote

1chunk wrote:
Hi guys,

Keep an eye out next summer and in the short-medium term. You will see reduction in the PYPs and some closures. King Saud university and Princess Noura are two of them...


I've heard about the 2016 closure of the PYP at PNU, but not KSU. However, it still appears to be hearsay as no official notification has been received.
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I-forgot



Joined: 28 Jun 2015
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Location: Riyadh

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: PYP cutbacks! Reply with quote

[quote="MENA_chica"][quote="1chunk"]Hi guys,

Keep an eye out next summer and in the short-medium term. You will see reduction in the PYPs and some closures. King Saud university and Princess Noura are two of them...[/quote]

I've heard about the 2016 closure of the PYP at PNU, but not KSU. However, it still appears to be hearsay as no official notification has been received.[/quote]

1. It's PNU. Notification will be two days before classes are due to start.
2. I heard (hearsay warning!) that the program was closing but would be replaced with something similar on a much smaller scale. English teachers would still be needed but not on the current scale.
3. I also heard that the goal is for the agency teachers to become direct hire but then again I've heard that one for several years running and it hasn't happened yet.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion is that the decision to provide Higher and Further Education through the medium of English was fundamentally flawed. It could work for well-funded elite institutions with a very selective intake. It is not suitable for institutions with a mass intake. Education and Training should be delivered through mother tongue - Arabic.
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bertonneau



Joined: 26 May 2009
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Location: Colorado USA

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:37 pm    Post subject: It's over for the Middle East Reply with quote

Sources? Type up any website and put in crisis in the middle east or Saudi Arabia and look at how fast Saudi and all Middle Eastern countries are eating through their reserve currencies. In five years most all folks will be gone as almost no one who has any respect will waste their time teaching here. Saudi will devour 20% of it's reserves just this year. In a few years when ISIS has truly penetrated their borders it will completely eat through their funds like a wildfire. I give Saudi two more years before the real affects truly raise their heads, reduced subsidies and the effects of Saudization will really stand out. Enjoy what you make here now as it wont last too much longer. I actually still have a well paid position, but the offers I'm hearing are a complete joke for anyone that isn't entrawlled with Islam would possibly want to stay here for much longer. It wont happen overnight, but far faster than Saudi is ready for. Anyone who has spent time here will see in five years and be saying wow I cant believe this is happening in Saudi. Exited PYP programs are only the very beginning of things to come here. Not that most arent a waste of time anyway, but salaries going to the bottom expats who thought about staying for 5 years heading home. Just look at most of the poverty stricken Muslim countries here and watch what happens to Saudi when they run out of money. They're going to rip themselves to shreds. Just watch. Oil at 40, 50 ,60, 70 or even 80 dollars a barrel just don't pay the bills over here.
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