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Hod · Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home

I said your lesson plan was good. What more can I do?

I'm just commenting that you've been back to edit it ten times. You could always save a copy on your PC for editing.

Pancetta
Spinach
Pine Nuts
Crème fraîche

I'll be back later to edit. I might be out of lemon juice.

fluffyhamster · Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:05 pm Post subject:

Actually what you said is "It's not bad if you have talkative students". Presumably yours aren't very talkative. I wonder what the reasons for that could be LOL.

It's not that I needed you to say it's good, but rather, to stop posting any quite pointless posts.

All I've ever really claimed is to have a more conversationally-compelling approach than most, as I think I've now shown. I've never claimed to never make minor mistakes or misread things or go off on slight tangents sometimes, hence some of the edits (the others meanwhile concerned minor corrections and tweaks I'd've made myself regardless and unbidden, guess I'm something of a perfectionist then, the thread title is after all 'The perfect lesson'!). So some of your points were ultimately helpful, appreciated.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

The truth is that there is no perfect lesson. Languages are learned, not taught. All this stuff about pair work and communicative activities is flim-flam, snake oil.

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kpjf · Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 385

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fluffyhamster · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:30 pm Post subject:

If you mean that more can often be achieved by studying at home with a decent self-study course and dictionary than in many schools, I'd broadly agree with you, Scot. But seeing as we can't all be best-selling educational authors, and that we've all elected to teach EFL at some point, and that enough students don't seem to mind signing up for at least a few classes (doubtless in the hope of a bit of the ol' rare but actual communication), not all of us like selling total snake oil to them (or speak for yourself!).

AGoodStory · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 738

fluffyhamster · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:46 pm Post subject:

Yeah but dogs don't have lips, whereas humans can certainly be bludgeoned over the head with CCQs and the like.

Hod · Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home

fluffyhamster · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:04 pm Post subject:

It's on...like Donkey Kong...AGAIN! Laughing

P.S: There are at least two lesson plans that you can crib from in this very thread, Scot! Or will we witness...LESSONS OF THE THIRD KIND. Surprised

fluffyhamster · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:22 pm Post subject:

Or you could just search Google Images for 'stifler gentleman and scholar' and check out the whatculture image (should be the first) for an idea for (indeed, an image of?) your 3rd conditional lesson, hell, it even has dogs!

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Conditional ? What this teacher ? We play game ! Finish time ! Go home !

fluffyhamster · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:19 pm Post subject:

Oh, I seee, that's a student from one of your LDM (Language Deprivation Method)* classes, Scot! You really should tell us more about your fascinating non-lessons, I'm sure we could all learn a thing or two from them.

*"The LD Method hearkens back to language learning ideas of yore, with children deprived of all spoken communicative input in the hope that this will reveal an original, pure and unabased language, usually assumed and hoped to be Latin". ( https://en.wackypedia.org/wiki/Language_deprivation_experiments )

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Nonsense. the Ur-language was Sanskrit, we all know that !

Hod · Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home

We have a new front runner for edutainer of the year 2015.