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orange_
Joined: 29 Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:05 pm Post subject: Changing work status in Saudi |
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Hi everyone!
This is my first post...I've been an observer for some time but wasn't sure what I can contribute
I'm living in Saudi on my husbands visa, i.e. I've not been allowed to work so far here. However, I was recently offered a position to work at a university
My questions:
Do I need any other document besides an exit visa, i.e. any document from my husband like a NOC (no objection certificate) or anything else.
- Do I need ANY document from the university before I leave for the UK?
- Finally, where's the cheapest place I can go to in London or the Midlands for a medical? (I've been searching online and it's a hefty price to pay considering it's all coming out of my pocket
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scot47

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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I do not think there is a cheap way to do it. Lots of threads here with advice on the medical. If you are still registered with a GP in the UK you could approach him/her. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Changing work status in Saudi |
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orange_ wrote: |
I'm living in Saudi on my husbands visa, i.e. I've not been allowed to work so far here. However, I was recently offered a position to work at a university.
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Do I need any other document besides an exit visa, i.e. any document from my husband like a NOC (no objection certificate) or anything else.
Do I need ANY document from the university before I leave for the UK |
Your prospective employer is really your best source of info on what documentation you'll need, especially since you're under your husband's sponsorship. |
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I-forgot
Joined: 28 Jun 2015 Posts: 153 Location: Riyadh
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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From the sound of it, you are leaving Saudi and coming back with a new sponsor. You are not doing an iqama transfer. Is that correct? If so, read on:
1. See if you can do an iqama transfer. That involves speaking to your husband's sponsor and your new employer. It could be a much quicker option. It will cost money (several thousand riyals) but can be completed in the Kingdom which means you don't have to pay for UK living costs for the time it takes to get a new visa from the UK.
2. If an iqama transfer is not an option, ask your new employer which visa agency they want you to go through. It is not always necessary but it is so much easier to do that than handle everything yourself. The employer should reimburse you for the cost however you would probably have to pay up front.
3. Medicals must be done through approved facilities so your GP won't be able to help you. The visa agency or consulate can advise you. I'm pretty sure the only places are in London.
4. If you do have to leave the Kingdom to get your new visa, make sure you leave on a final exit visa. Yes, that is different to the visa you would use for a holiday when you intend to return with the same sponsor.
5. You won't need further documentation from your husband but you would need a contract from your new employer/sponsor and the visa batch number etc. That's another reason it is easier to go through an agency.
I'm not sure how long visa processing is taking at the moment. For sone reason, I have 6 weeks minimum in my mind but I amnit sure why. Perhaos others can who have been through the process recently can provide updates.
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orange_
Joined: 29 Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I-forgot wrote: |
From the sound of it, you are leaving Saudi and coming back with a new sponsor. You are not doing an iqama transfer. Is that correct? If so, read on:
1. See if you can do an iqama transfer. That involves speaking to your husband's sponsor and your new employer. It could be a much quicker option. It will cost money (several thousand riyals) but can be completed in the Kingdom which means you don't have to pay for UK living costs for the time it takes to get a new visa from the UK.
2. If an iqama transfer is not an option, ask your new employer which visa agency they want you to go through. It is not always necessary but it is so much easier to do that than handle everything yourself. The employer should reimburse you for the cost however you would probably have to pay up front.
3. Medicals must be done through approved facilities so your GP won't be able to help you. The visa agency or consulate can advise you. I'm pretty sure the only places are in London.
4. If you do have to leave the Kingdom to get your new visa, make sure you leave on a final exit visa. Yes, that is different to the visa you would use for a holiday when you intend to return with the same sponsor.
5. You won't need further documentation from your husband but you would need a contract from your new employer/sponsor and the visa batch number etc. That's another reason it is easier to go through an agency.
I'm not sure how long visa processing is taking at the moment. For sone reason, I have 6 weeks minimum in my mind but I amnit sure why. Perhaos others can who have been through the process recently can provide updates.
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Yes, that's correct. The employer said it's easier this way. I can't do an iqamah transfer as it's too complicated for them...they're not great with admin
My employer has directed me to the embassy without any agencies being involved so far...They never mentioned reimbursing the cost of an agency / medical - I had no idea they were able to do that!!! I'll check with the employer, thanks.
OK, I'll contact the embassy regarding where I can do the medical. They don't give much information in their email. I have felt so lost and confused in this process. They don't answer their phone calls either and their emails are a one line response which don't address my questions So it's been an uphill struggle getting any information so far, hence why I've turned to this trusted source. I wish there was one website where they had a list of approved organisations / doctors that could do the medical and their fees, it would be so much easier.
I'm really reluctant to involve an agency because they do charge a lot and I still doubt whether I'll be reimbursed ...so until I find out from the employer I'm forced to take on board this challenge alone ...and with ESLcafe forums help of course!
Thank you for your reply!
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orange_
Joined: 29 Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Changing work status in Saudi |
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nomad soul wrote: |
orange_ wrote: |
I'm living in Saudi on my husbands visa, i.e. I've not been allowed to work so far here. However, I was recently offered a position to work at a university.
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Do I need any other document besides an exit visa, i.e. any document from my husband like a NOC (no objection certificate) or anything else.
Do I need ANY document from the university before I leave for the UK |
Your prospective employer is really your best source of info on what documentation you'll need, especially since you're under your husband's sponsorship. |
My prospective employer should, in theory, be the best source of info, but I've been in this country for long enough to realise that they don't always know what they're doing! I don't want to leave for the UK and then find out from the embassy in London that I require an original copy of some document from Saudi, so I thought I'd double check here before I go.
Thanks for your reply though  |
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orange_
Joined: 29 Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
I do not think there is a cheap way to do it. Lots of threads here with advice on the medical. If you are still registered with a GP in the UK you could approach him/her. |
Thanks for your reply. The reason I asked the question was so I could get a clear answer. There's too much information out there right now. Some people say I can go to a GP, some say I must go through a private medical centre in the UK, others claim I can only get the medical done in a private medical centre in London. ...Still confused.
I'll give it a go with my GP because the centres in London charge an absolutely extortionate amount for that one piece of paper! I assume they all think that if you're going abroad you must be rich...I wish  |
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gregory999

Joined: 29 Jul 2015 Posts: 372 Location: 999
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I do not think you can do an Iqama transfer as you are registered as a dependent on your husband's Iqama. You have to have your own Iqama linked to your job, and as far as I know, you have to do this after exiting with a final exit (you name will be cancelled from your husband's Iqama), and start a new work visa process in London.
Try your GP in UK, he might be able to sign some of the medical items for your (except AIDS, X-Ray and some blood tests where you have to pay for these with a private clinic).
Also, you might need your marriage certificate (translated and certified) in case you apply for a family accommodation with the university, and also for you husband to be able to act on your behalf in case of need. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Changing work status in Saudi |
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orange_ wrote: |
My prospective employer should, in theory, be the best source of info, but I've been in this country for long enough to realise that they don't always know what they're doing! I don't want to leave for the UK and then find out from the embassy in London that I require an original copy of some document from Saudi, so I thought I'd double check here before I go.  |
However, the HR department is the very entity that submits your information and processes your documents anyway. It's quite likely they've done the same for other trailing spouses they've hired.
By the way, the iqama has been replaced with the muqeem. |
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I-forgot
Joined: 28 Jun 2015 Posts: 153 Location: Riyadh
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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To top up my earlier advice - the sponsor is required to pay for your visa costs under the terms of Saudi Labour Law.
I suggest that you remind them of this and tell them you want to use an agency and therefore which would they prefer you to use.
It is standard practice to be reimbursed for your visa and medical costs. It shouldn't be a surprise to them. That said, I do think it would be a good idea to create a paper trail for this so as to avoid issues later.
The last time I had to do is, the cost was GBP500. That included the cost of the medical.
If you would like to PM me with details of where you and your husband work, I might be able to offer more advice. Sometimes, it is just a case of finding the right person at the university to speak to and problems miraculously disappear. And sometimes it really does just seem that they are making things up as they go along. |
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gregory999

Joined: 29 Jul 2015 Posts: 372 Location: 999
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Changing work status in Saudi |
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nomad soul wrote: |
By the way, the iqama has been replaced with the muqeem. |
I think the new name for Iqama is 'Residence Permit' (or Resident Identity).
'muqeem' is the name for the electronic service (e-portal) which issues and renews the Residence Permit.
http://www.arabnews.com/news/817801 |
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I-forgot
Joined: 28 Jun 2015 Posts: 153 Location: Riyadh
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Changing work status in Saudi |
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[quote="nomad soul"]
By the way, the iqama has been replaced with the muqeem.[/quote]
Yes, it has. However, we are all still calling it an iqama. It has some pretty holograms on it but is much the same as the old card. |
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I-forgot
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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edited - double post, don't know why. |
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orange_
Joined: 29 Aug 2015 Posts: 10 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I-forgot wrote: |
To top up my earlier advice - the sponsor is required to pay for your visa costs under the terms of Saudi Labour Law.
I suggest that you remind them of this and tell them you want to use an agency and therefore which would they prefer you to use.
It is standard practice to be reimbursed for your visa and medical costs. It shouldn't be a surprise to them. That said, I do think it would be a good idea to create a paper trail for this so as to avoid issues later.
The last time I had to do is, the cost was GBP500. That included the cost of the medical.
If you would like to PM me with details of where you and your husband work, I might be able to offer more advice. Sometimes, it is just a case of finding the right person at the university to speak to and problems miraculously disappear. And sometimes it really does just seem that they are making things up as they go along. |
Thank you so much for your well informed answers! I'll get in touch if I need any more advice.  |
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orange_
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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gregory999 wrote: |
I do not think you can do an Iqama transfer as you are registered as a dependent on your husband's Iqama. You have to have your own Iqama linked to your job, and as far as I know, you have to do this after exiting with a final exit (you name will be cancelled from your husband's Iqama), and start a new work visa process in London.
Try your GP in UK, he might be able to sign some of the medical items for your (except AIDS, X-Ray and some blood tests where you have to pay for these with a private clinic).
Also, you might need your marriage certificate (translated and certified) in case you apply for a family accommodation with the university, and also for you husband to be able to act on your behalf in case of need. |
I never thought for a second about taking my marriage certificate but I might just do that now.  |
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