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guobaoyobro
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Wait - you make your University student's SING?! ABBA and NWA?!
Oh man...discreet phone video please. (Yuoku gold!)  |
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asiannationmc
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| yeah I taught a class in the quantum physics associated with thug life. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:45 am Post subject: |
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ABBA: What a loo!
Perhaps I misunderstood your ccomment. |
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asiannationmc
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Non Sequitur, Waterloo/What a loo
Now you made me admit that I know the titles to their songs..... |
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Shanghai Noon
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| guobaoyobro wrote: |
I always like to think back to my years in school.
Would I want to listen to myself?
Am I being "that guy?"
Is this interesting?
Now, times all of the would-be issues by 5, and add a filter of noise and clutter on it. Remember, you're not speaking to them in Chinese.
A little energy has gone a long, long way with me.
I also like to start with good warm-ups, every class, even if there's a lot to cover on said day. 10 minutes of warm-up can lead you through hours of drudgery, if you play it right. |
Absolutely right re warm up. I found it such a positive influence that i would have a warm down as well - usually just a repeat of the song, but sends the students off to lunch or their next class in a +ve frame of mind. |
Are you talking about Chinese University students? A song? Really? |
Don't sound so shocked. I teach high school. I still use Head and Shoulders to teach the parts of the body to the weaker students. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| asiannationmc wrote: |
Non Sequitur, Waterloo/What a loo
Now you made me admit that I know the titles to their songs..... |
I've avoided that one as I found it a bit daunting to explain the provenance of 'Waterloo'.
I shamelessly point up the boy/girl stuff which for freshmen really gets their interest. |
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mrwslee003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:13 pm Post subject: warm up |
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I remember just asking one student a basic question "What is your name?" as a starter. Then continue with other simple questions: "How is your day?" And then others just to get their attention before the real lesson. If I feel I am getting a good response I change to another student.
Have you ever try that? And not starting the lesson as soon as you get into the room? Or tell them what happened to you on the way to school today or yesterday, just to break the ice. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Or tell them what happened to you on the way to school today or yesterday, just to break the ice. |
Why would they care? The lesson's not about me (or about practicing my own question asking skills).
Unless you are modelling a task - it's probably far more useful if they talk or write about what happened to THEM on the way to school. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: warm up |
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| mrwslee003 wrote: |
I remember just asking one student a basic question "What is your name?" as a starter. Then continue with other simple questions: "How is your day?" And then others just to get their attention before the real lesson. If I feel I am getting a good response I change to another student.
Have you ever try that? And not starting the lesson as soon as you get into the room? Or tell them what happened to you on the way to school today or yesterday, just to break the ice. |
In a 50-student class that's a lot of time taken up.
Sure songs are rote but for getting max impact out of 7-10 minutes there's nothing like them.
I always feel under time pressure in an 18X1.5 hour semester given that I've got to end up with a %age mark for each student that is based 60% on class work. |
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spiral78
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So long as you have 50 students in a class, you are forgiven for using songs:-) Or whatever else works at least minimally! Surely no-one can expect very much learning to occur in such a situation.
I do wonder what the other 49 would be doing while Mr. Lee practices his question-asking skills on one or another? |
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Non Sequitur
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| spiral78 wrote: |
So long as you have 50 students in a class, you are forgiven for using songs:-) Or whatever else works at least minimally! Surely no-one can expect very much learning to occur in such a situation.
I do wonder what the other 49 would be doing while Mr. Lee practices his question-asking skills on one or another? |
Well, as mentioned I have to get a mark for each student.
I hope there is some learning going on.
Knowing 'Mama Mia' is an Italian-derived expression of surprise ain't much I know.
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spiral78
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| Mama mia! Well, if they can use it sometime, probably more useful than a monologue on Mr Lee's Trip to School. Or repeating low-level stuff like 'my name is...' |
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isitts
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
| Mama mia! Well, if they can use it sometime… |
That’s right! You just have to take a chance! You know? Be a super trooper!
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| ...it's probably far more useful if they talk or write about what happened to THEM on the way to school. |
Or they could talk about the day before you came. |
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Non Sequitur
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Well it's trouper and again that takes a bit of explaining.
Another reason I gravitate to ABBA songs is that they move along at much the same pace throughout.
Some other stuff has a catchy chorus but a dirge-like verse.
Back Street Boys 'As long as you love me' also goes down well. |
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mrwslee003
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Well, I am just giving out ideas. You can knock on every idea you like or you can try it and see how it works for you. You don't have to try talking to everyone in your class. For a teacher you have this extra sense when things can go further or it can stop right the next second.
Ask them why they are taking your course, ask them what their dreams are.
Ask them if they have a chance to go to any country where would they go.
Try to connect with your students. If they are the same age as you, your peers.
Be versatile, flexible, sensible and amendable. If one is tunnel visioned and arrogant, then being a teacher would be a challenge. You don't go to into another country and culture and insist on being who you are in your own country and environment. If you do then maybe staying home is the best job you can get. Going to another country automatically puts yourself in the adventurous, curious, and amendable mode or state of mind. One would hope.  |
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