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Trying to understand the type of visa I have
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brnrd wrote:
If you've been given a business visa, then that's not a problem.
Since we'll just refresh your visa every 30 days, since a number of our teachers are also under a business visa.
Can you send us a copy of your visa? So we can book you for a flight and bring in as soon as possible.

Is he speaking poo-poo or is there a Thailand visa scam going on too! I can't see that being feasible,and then what would happen after the 3 months are up? It took me THREE months,countless red tape.Hang out in Bahrain for 3 months? Nahh!

Three months? Visa runs to Bahrain seem to entail a day or two, probably over a weekend. Anyway, this is why job seekers need to confirm during the interview what visa they'd be getting.
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1chunk



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will have to make monthly trips to outside of KSA and make a swift return. After 3 months, they will send you to a nearby country and keep you there a few days until another 3 month visa is issued.

It can all go fairly smoothly or very pear shaped. At the very least you will be traveling in your free time (the weekend). You may even have to spend your own money for all the headache.

If they issued a business visa to you without making it clear then it's a clear warning sign. A friend of mine was given one but it was all made clear from the beginning.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's ignoring the fact that you want and don't have an employment visa. The recruiter has nothing to do with the type of visa you get, it's not his call. It's the call of the Saudi company that hires you. The recruiter just recruits for the Saudi company and collects a fee for it.

Working on a business visa is not all bad. You can just walk of the job in Saudi Arabia upon finding something better. The only problem is they might not give you health insurance that is worth anything, as they usually do with people that have Iqamas. Now that they want you and are providing a ticket for you, the only danger that I see is the Saudi traffic. I would just make whatever money you can and fill your savings coffer. You have the visa you may as well.
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brnrd



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, after a fair amount of consideration of working in Saudi on a Business Visa... I've been offered a position at the last place I worked. While it is 40% lower, it allows me more flexibility with what I can teach,and how I can teach.The visa to be issued should (likely will be) be the proper one.

I'll contact the Saudi recruiter and tell them to cancel my visa.In the future,I may apply for a job in Saudi,but will hopefully only accept a job with the proper visa; of which I will specify at the get go.

Considering the lack of information I could find regarding the details,many of which one never thinks of until a later date - there were far too many risk factors. I'm guessing if I was mid-20s,or financially comfortable,the general risks might be palatable.

BTW: Somewhat related to undue risk taking: I was amused to find over the years ESL jobs in places at war and/or had significant terrorism threats.Surprising to me,and the few non-ESL people I showed these adverts to, the lack of mentioning ANY security being provided;just business as usual, with the demands/requirements of the job.They, like me,were aghast.

Thanks and best of luck, and Seasons Greetings,
Bernard/William
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brnrd wrote:
Well, after a fair amount of consideration of working in Saudi on a Business Visa... I've been offered a position at the last place I worked. While it is 40% lower, it allows me more flexibility with what I can teach,and how I can teach.The visa to be issued should (likely will be) be the proper one.

I'll contact the Saudi recruiter and tell them to cancel my visa.In the future,I may apply for a job in Saudi,but will hopefully only accept a job with the proper visa; of which I will specify at the get go.

Considering the lack of information I could find regarding the details,many of which one never thinks of until a later date - there were far too many risk factors. I'm guessing if I was mid-20s,or financially comfortable,the general risks might be palatable.

So you're heading back to East Asia. That's a better situation for you.

and brnrd wrote:
BTW: Somewhat related to undue risk taking: I was amused to find over the years ESL jobs in places at war and/or had significant terrorism threats.Surprising to me,and the few non-ESL people I showed these adverts to, the lack of mentioning ANY security being provided;just business as usual, with the demands/requirements of the job.They, like me,were aghast.

It depends on the employer. I worked in a volatile environment on a US government project, and not only did I receive danger pay, our team was escorted to/from the airport in armored, bullet-proof SUVs with a security detail. The host country and the US embassy made our safety a constant priority. In fact, security was addressed in the contract. That's likely not the case for some private, for-profit companies. But at the same time, job seekers to dangerous regions/countries generally are aware there are hazards when deciding whether or not to accept work in these types of situations.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that their being aghast at the lack of security was more related to the Middle East in general (and their lack of knowledge).

The security mentioned by NS is related to actual war zones like Afghanistan and Iraq. In KSA for the average education employer there isn't any. Some have a "guard" at a compound who is occasionally awake. The rest of the Gulf basically few of us ever even think about it as there is really no need...

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