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scot47

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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Many teachers have problems in KSA. Some of these problems are of their own making. I learned a lot about myself and about the world in my years in KSA. The place has a magnetic attraction for strange people, misfits and the downright psychotic. I reserve judgement on which category I was in.
On my first contract I was a performing drunk. On subsequent contracts I was a reformed drunk.
Reformed was easier. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:54 am Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
Many teachers have problems in KSA. Some of these problems are of their own making. |
Amen. Plus, for some, the problem was in going to KSA in the first place despite knowing it was a bad fit for them personally. |
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paul.conlong
Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Posts: 84 Location: Rochdale, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Thank you NS for your reply, in regards to providing reference. The original staff that were at the ESOL centre have since moved on. How would I go about providing a reference? as my employment with them ended in 2013.
I am still in contact with my former supervisor, he would be happy to provide me a reference. however would this be acceptable? |
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nomad soul

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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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paul.conlong wrote: |
The original staff that were at the ESOL centre have since moved on. How would I go about providing a reference? as my employment with them ended in 2013.
I am still in contact with my former supervisor, he would be happy to provide me a reference. however would this be acceptable? |
There's nothing wrong with including a recommendation letter from a former supervisor. But really, just submit the requested documentation indicated in the job postings for those openings you're qualified for. |
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MissSuleiman
Joined: 31 Oct 2015 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Hatcher wrote: |
Scot47 you are unique in your love for the KSA
But you know most have a rough time there....
2 reasons to go there.... money and Mekka
So unless the original poster needs the money then no need to go |
You guessed right I am Muslim so of course naturally, I would love to be able to work and live in either of the Holy areas of Mekka or Medinah.
I know many people who have worked in Saudi Arabia and loved it strangely enough all women who shared this sentiment. |
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Allahtellya1
Joined: 11 Jan 2016 Posts: 43
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:59 am Post subject: clarification |
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I think saying people have had a rough time here is not saying people hated it or couldnt cope. Many do struggle because of the restrictions. others , take time to adjust. still others fit right in.
Myself, my first job in ksa was a struggle due to the location of the job and the category of students and adjusting to wasta and the carefree attitude of some students.
Once I adjusted to that and learned from it I have managed fairly well. Given I am of another faith than islam, not having access to a place to practice my faith has always been a struggle but a recent aquaintence reminded me that your faith can be practiced always in your heart and you can pray or meditate anywhere.
Aside from religion though, some people just cant make in any completely different environment |
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Hatcher
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Lets list the how the KSA compares to other nearby countries.
Tell us what makes the KSA so amazing. |
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paul.conlong
Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Posts: 84 Location: Rochdale, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, all.
Now going back to the topic of Jeddah.
Has anyone here taught at the University of Jeddah?
Also what kind of questions would you ask recruiters? what should you watch out for etc?
Any info provided will be appreciated  |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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paul.conlong wrote: |
Has anyone here taught at the University of Jeddah?
Also what kind of questions would you ask recruiters? what should you watch out for etc?
Any info provided will be appreciated  |
I suggest you create a separate thread specific to UoJ. Otherwise, it will get buried in this thread.
In terms of interview questions for the recruiter, focus on those areas that weren't addressed in the job ad or that you need clarification on. But you could certainly ask about housing and its proximity to the worksite (i.e., distance in minutes/hours), major shopping nearby, how many hours include actual teaching time vs office hours, work hours (start/end times), what resources (supplies, computer access) are available to teachers, etc. I'm sure you can come up with 7-8 questions. |
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scot47

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:14 am Post subject: |
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One of the interesting aspects of life in KSA is that the population is actually very diverse. Under those thobes there are in fact people from very different backgrounds - especially in Jeddah which has been a melting pot for centuries. |
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Hatcher
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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I know several guys and UJ and they all came from KAAU.
They said its fine and are happy in north Jeddah where you are closer to the beaches and malls.
Management is more hands off. Show up on time and dont leave early. Follow the syllabus and do what is asked.
One Brit was fired a month ago for being rude to everyone. |
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scot47

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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Maybe Hatcher would sooner be in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Eritrea, Sudan ?
Best to stick with KSA where at least things work. |
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bigdurianthesecond
Joined: 16 Jan 2016 Posts: 62 Location: The Base
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hatcher wrote: |
Scot47 you are unique in your love for the KSA
But you know most have a rough time there....
2 reasons to go there.... money and Mekka
So unless the original poster needs the money then no need to go |
Good social life
Five hours work a day
A lot of freetime
More time with the family
Cheap gasoline
Good holidays |
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bigdurianthesecond
Joined: 16 Jan 2016 Posts: 62 Location: The Base
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Hatcher"]Lets list the how the KSA compares to other nearby countries.
Tell us what makes the KSA so amazing.[/quote]
I can honestly say that when we lived in Riyadh we had a great social life. Parties every weekend, events at different compounds, pool parties, bbq, live bands sometimes, embassy piss ups, a good circle of friends, down to earth people, children have loads of friends.
The only reason I left was that my current job pays me nearly double. |
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