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nomad soul
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Why should a highly qualified and experienced teacher pay good money to attend a 'training course' run by the agent?
The agents recognize this and will avoid offering such people work. Much better to hire inexperienced people and make them pay for more training.
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Highly-qualified and experienced teachers can apply directly if their quals are that strong (i.e., TEFL-related MA, valid TEFL cert, at least a couple of years of experience).
Anyway, according to that training company's site, they collect the visa processing fee after the job candidate passes the training. Excluding that fee, it's not unusual for teachers new to a position, or even returning teachers, to go through mandatory training/professional development at the start of a term. I've participated in a few of these sessions myself in the US and abroad; it's part of being a teacher.
If anything, the OP now has a sense of what it's like if she's thinking about applying through Trine for the UoD. |
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Lord T
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| nomad soul - I'm all in favour of professional development, but I don't believe in this case that the agent can provide it. They are just trying to make money out of people who are looking for work. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Lord T wrote: |
| nomad soul - I'm all in favour of professional development, but I don't believe in this case that the agent can provide it. They are just trying to make money out of people who are looking for work. |
The fee is for the visa processing not for the training. The training also will be ongoing while the teachers are in KSA. (The trainer's profile is on their website and she probably has a Linkedin profile.) I'm not endorsing this company, but those job seekers who are put off by this requirement and partnership with UoD can choose not to apply since the job ad is clear about the visa fee, the training, the company's role, etc. It is what it is. |
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Lavender122
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Im British and have a BA in English Studies.
I applied via two separate agencies for positions at KSU (that were advertised). The first agency told me my application was declined by the client. The second agency forwarded my application on then came back to me to say that the client said they had already considered my application and declined it. The agencies were surprised by it too and couldnt understand why this was!
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paul.conlong
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Just apply somewhere else if you have been rejected twice.
I sometimes get the feeling some recruiters or hiring firms look for someone with fewer qualifications in order to pay them less, but thats just my gut feeling which is wrong in most cases  |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| Im British and have a BA in English Studies. |
You didn't state whether your degree entailed online/distance coursework. If so and it's immediately obvious to the folks at KSU, that's likely the reason your application packet was declined. However, if your degree was fully completed on campus, then move on and try recruiters for Princess Nora U. and the numerous colleges of excellence. Otherwise, there's always China.
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izmigari
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Lavender122 wrote: |
| Im British and have a BA in English Studies. |
Imagine that!
It's like saying "I'm Canadian and have a BA in Cold Weather Survival" |
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Lavender122
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Lol
I'm new to all this. I didn't realise one has to really spell things out.
I completed my degree on campus and completed my CELTA in person 
Just to be clear, KSU have 'declined' me and not the agencies.
But yes, time to move on methinks.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Lavender122 wrote: |
I'm new to all this. I didn't realise one has to really spell things out.
I completed my degree on campus and completed my CELTA in person |
It's important info because the government of KSA does not recognize degrees that included online coursework. If that were the case, your visa application would get rejected. Ditto for Qatar, Bahrain, and Kuwait. Your qualifying degree gets checked with your university registrar. You'll also need to have Cambridge confirm your CELTA. That's a heads up; your friend can tell you the process for UK job applicants. |
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currentaffairs
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I only needed to get my MA confirmed by my university in the UK and nothing else. |
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