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sicklyman
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 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:52 am Post subject: Saudi Aramco redundancies |
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Bad news for those of you hoping that you might hit the jackpot and land a job directly hired or even contracted to Saudi Aramco. Be aware that the oil giant is currently asking teachers in many training centres to work their notice.
Notice period has been increased from 30 days to 60 days, interestingly, and while this move seems to be targeted towards older contracted teachers on higher grade codes, direct hires have also been impacted.
Cost-cutting and lower intakes have been cited as reasons for this. |
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izmigari
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:13 am Post subject: Re: Saudi Aramco redundancies |
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| sicklyman wrote: |
Bad news for those of you hoping that you might hit the jackpot and land a job directly hired or even contracted to Saudi Aramco. Be aware that the oil giant is currently asking teachers in many training centres to work their notice.
Notice period has been increased from 30 days to 60 days, interestingly, and while this move seems to be targeted towards older contracted teachers on higher grade codes, direct hires have also been impacted.
Cost-cutting and lower intakes have been cited as reasons for this. |
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Balzac
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Saudi Aramco redundancies |
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| sicklyman wrote: |
Bad news for those of you hoping that you might hit the jackpot and land a job directly hired or even contracted to Saudi Aramco. Be aware that the oil giant is currently asking teachers in many training centres to work their notice.
Notice period has been increased from 30 days to 60 days, interestingly, and while this move seems to be targeted towards older contracted teachers on higher grade codes, direct hires have also been impacted.
Cost-cutting and lower intakes have been cited as reasons for this. |
Interesting as I had a chance of a direct hire job there a few years back. Do you have a source for this or is it just rumours at this stage?
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scot47
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| When the New Austerity hits KSA, of course ELT will be one of the targets. One day there will be no more foreign teachers of Frankish in KSA. The .locals will do it all ! |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Saudi Aramco redundancies |
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| ... asking teachers in many training centres to work their notice. |
Not quite sure what this means... do you mean that the teachers have been given 60 days notice that their contract is terminated?
Or are these teachers whose contract was ending are now not being renewed?
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sicklyman
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Saudi Aramco redundancies |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| sicklyman wrote: |
| ... asking teachers in many training centres to work their notice. |
Not quite sure what this means... do you mean that the teachers have been given 60 days notice that their contract is terminated?
Or are these teachers whose contract was ending are now not being renewed?
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Yes, it's typically strange. Obviously, in order to get any accrued severance, they have to work their notice period even though morale-wise, they probably feel like heading out the door now. I assume the notice period is to allow training centres to adjust to the loss as remaining teachers take up the slack.
This is mid-contract. Some teachers only found out when they went to book leave and found a message saying that their contract did not extend beyond the period they wanted leave.
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| Do you have a source for this or is it just rumours at this stage? |
I know some of the teachers personally. This is not a rumour. |
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scot47
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"To work your notice" is presumably a British expression and not one used or understood over The Great Waters.
It means that you are required to work the period stipulated as the period required to be notified before termination by the employer.
What would the expression be stateside ?
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johnslat
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While we Yanks would most likely be familiar with terms such as "two weeks' notice; a month's notice," etc., I don't think there is a concise American English expression that conveys the information in "work your notice."
I think it's spot on, though, and will nick it. 
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scot47
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| Sirrah, the action of a low cutpurse. Fie on you, Sirrah ! |
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veiledsentiments
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| scot47 wrote: |
"To work your notice" is presumably a British expression and not one used or understood over The Great Waters.
It means that you are required to work the period stipulated as the period required to be notified before termination by the employer.
What would the expression be stateside ? |
Since literally no American is working with a contract - what with the death of unions, the average employer will just wait until you have worked the last day that they need you... and call you in, hand you your final check and a box to empty your desk. A good employer will have given you a week or two of extra pay in there to help out, but it is not required by law.
I remember at my first job after college... in an office (there were no education jobs). People kept disappearing. At least once or twice a week, there would be another empty desk. I finally went in to the boss of the accounting department and bluntly asked him when my name was coming up on the list. He said that I would be one of the last to go because of my position, but that if he was me, he would start job hunting and not to worry about giving notice. I had another job before the end of the week.
Because in the US system, only the employee has to give notice, not the employer.
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izmigari
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| Because in the US system, only the employee has to give notice, not the employer. |
Probably in the private sector, but not those that are unionized (UAW, at least).
Federal permanent employees must be given a 30-day "Proposal of Separation". Definitely, a "proposal" to avoid! 
That is, unless one decides to "go postal"!
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scot47
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| The Employment Rights that we still have in the UK are under threat now. Tories would love us to go down the American path. |
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sicklyman
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| the American path. |
Paths would be far too small, they only have highways... |
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Balzac
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Saudi Aramco redundancies |
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| sicklyman wrote: |
| Balzac wrote: |
| Do you have a source for this or is it just rumours at this stage? |
I know some of the teachers personally. This is not a rumour. |
Thanks. Are many of these (a) direct hire or subcontractors e.g. from HAK or SCRACO? (b) longterm Aramco employees? Must be quite a shock to the system for many accustomed to such lucrative jobs.
It seems to add fuel to the fire e.g. that the Saudis are in financial straights and are cutting costs wherever possible. I see too that they quietly applied for an 8 billion US$ loan from some US banks to be paid back over 5 years. The fact this was done on the QT suggests again that not all is well financially with the House of Saud.
When you're bankrolling counties like Egypt to stave of the Muslim Brotherhood as well as anti Hezbollah factions in Lebanon and you're fighting an unwinnable war in Yemen not to mention how much is being poured into pro Wahhabist causes in Syria, the pot soon runs dry.
One wonders what will be next? Cut the Zakkad subsidies? Increase again the gas pump prices? Introduce a 6-day week again?
If you're not prepared to levy income taxes, your hands are pretty died for raising revenue.
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In the heat of the moment
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Saudi Aramco redundancies |
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| Balzac wrote: |
One wonders what will be next? Cut the Zakkad subsidies? Increase again the gas pump prices? Introduce a 6-day week again?
If you're not prepared to levy income taxes, your hands are pretty died for raising revenue.
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Apparently the new Riyadh Metro being built is going to be scaled back to Thomas the Tank Engine in the foyer of the Ritz-Carlton, Fadhili gas plant is going to be scaled back to three hamsters in a wheel, Jeddah Tower will be scaled back from one kilometre high to a small sandcastle, and government buildings will only be open from 3-4 PM on Thursday to save on electricity bills. |
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