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sharona
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 21
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: First stop China or Thailand??? |
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Hello everyone,
I've just gained my CELTA and want to head off to China or Thailand (but not Bangkok).
Fact is I have a little bit of credit card debt, so want something quite well paid, at least for initial six months. Being degree'less though cannot go to Taiwan or Japan.
From looking around on the net, I think the main drawbacks with Thailand would be having to teach young children (which I don't really want to have to deal with straight off), and large classes.
And with China it seems having to be available for long hours on working days, and polluted cities.
Anyone have any solutions??
thanx
S
ps I will post to both China and Thailand forums, if this is okay! (want as many answers as possible) |
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Gringo Greg
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 264 Location: Everywhere and nowhere
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 7:32 am Post subject: |
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my suggestion is to avoid Thailand if you have credit card debt..without a degree you will at best make 25k a month($600) and while the cost of living in low, it isn't that low. Plus you will have visa problems on a monthly basis without a degree..you can have an ok time if you are single and spending all of your pay, but life will suck for you if are sending 20% of your salary back home for debts.
My suggestion is to stay home until the credit card debt is paid off or just figure that you won't be paying it off. |
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billybang
Joined: 19 Jun 2004 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:53 am Post subject: china difficult to understand thailand doesnt pay well |
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been both places and china is difficult to understand. everything is written in chinese and almost no one speaks english. thailand at least some people speak english in big cities. but even with ba or masters degree you wont be paid more than 700$ american a month. doesnt matter about degrees. same pay as a high school education. china pays better. but try and communicate. one minute of english is equal to hours of problems. |
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WorkingVaca
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 135
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject: Debt |
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If you need to make more money to pay off debts back home, you should be thinking about Korea, Japan or Taiwan. If you're interested in Chinese food, language and culture, Taiwan has it. |
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august03

Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 159 Location: Jiangsu, China
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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china is difficult to understand. everything is written in chinese and almost no one speaks english |
I disagree, I have been surprised at the amount of people that DO speak English, even in the small city where I live, road signs are in English, some restaurant menus and you'll find at least 1 person in every store that speaks a little English.
You can find many jobs in China that don't have long working hours, I only work 11hrs a week and earn enough money to pay debt back home in Oz. Plus it's easy to find work here without a degree. |
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markholmes

Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 661 Location: Wengehua
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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You're are unlikely to earn much money in the first six months teaching anywhere including Taiwan, Japan and Korea. There are lots of set up costs initially. Most people don't start stacking away serious savings until they are into the second year.
You won't be paying off many debts in Thailand or China. |
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ela_espanola
Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 18 Location: Toronto, Canada...soon in Guangzhou
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:02 am Post subject: |
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if u want to pay of ur credit card debt then thailand is out of the picture. try developed cities such as guanzhou, shanghai, bejjing etc. i got offered a good position with no degree or teaching experience. good luck |
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ela_espanola
Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 18 Location: Toronto, Canada...soon in Guangzhou
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:04 am Post subject: |
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You won't be paying off many debts in Thailand or China. |
that is not true.....there is saving potential in china |
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sigmoid
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1276
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:07 am Post subject: skip Thailand |
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Even with a degree it is difficult to find well-paid teaching jobs in Thailand, especially outside of Bangkok.
Do some more research about China. They seem to have a HUGE demand for teachers and more relaxed regulations in regards to teaching without a degree. |
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David Bowles
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 249
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed- demand in China is enough. If you really want to get money fast there's no way that China/Thailand would compare with most jobs in western Europe/the USA etc, but then again China can be very cheap to live in as your employer will almost certainly pay accommodation. I think working without a degree is technically illegal in China (I'm fairly sure it's a requirement for a work visa/residence permit), but that doesn't stop many people. If your employer has the clout to OK things with the local officicals it should be fine... |
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ContemporaryDog
Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 1477 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: |
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I work in China and have all my rent, bills, meals, internet costs, etc all paid for by school. So while my monthly pay of 5800 yuan (about 400 quid) a month sounds low, I still save about 3000 of it, which is about 210 quid. You could conceivably pay off debts with that, although I do have to be a bit careful. In my first term I was going out to expensive bars and spending all my money on that, and hardly saved any, its only since Mrs Dog came along that Iv'e saved a lot - about 1500 pounds since Janaury. |
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