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balex
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:22 am Post subject: Macau school, is it legit? |
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Hi, I’m a newbie there, but hope you will help me
A few weeks ago I was offered to teach English in Macau (Jolly Kingdom).
I have teaching experience in China, but do not have a degree in education as well as CELTA/TEFL. The company told me I need to work for a month (probation) at first, then they will offer a contract and apply for work permit, which can be done in July.
The salary in quite low (10000 mop for probation), but the company offers accommodation, so I am good with it.
As I know in China only native English speakers can get teaching positions and apply for Z visa, but how is it going in Macau? I have been searching in the Internet but can’t find any information about it (excepting that an employee should be qualified and so on).
I am also confused that the company have not asked me for a demo lesson (as usually all Chinese schools do) and at the first time they asked me to stay for a half of month in training center, because there are some problems with a landlord. However, after I told them that I am not going to live in school, they said they will rent another apartment.
Soo, I can’t find anything bad about the company, but the offer sounds quite suspicious. What do you think? |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Macau school, is it legit? |
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balex wrote: |
I have teaching experience in China, but do not have a degree in education as well as CELTA/TEFL.
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As I know in China only native English speakers can get teaching positions and apply for Z visa, but how is it going in Macau? |
Just for clarification, you're a non-native English speaker. You hold at least a BA but no TEFL certificate. |
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balex
Joined: 08 Apr 2016 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:15 am Post subject: Re: Macau school, is it legit? |
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nomad soul wrote: |
Just for clarification, you're a non-native English speaker. You hold at least a BA but no TEFL certificate. |
In China I'm doing an internship and sometimes tutoring, but that's it and currently I am not certified
They consider me as near-native speaker, that's why I was quite surprised to get the offer. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:37 am Post subject: |
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balex wrote: |
nomad soul wrote: |
Just for clarification, you're a non-native English speaker. You hold at least a BA but no TEFL certificate. |
In China I'm doing an internship and sometimes tutoring, but that's it and currently I am not certified
They consider me as near-native speaker, that's why I was quite surprised to get the offer. |
So you have completed a BA degree? Yes or no?
balex wrote: |
The company told me I need to work for a month (probation) at first, then they will offer a contract and apply for work permit, which can be done in July. |
Does this employer intend to fully pay you for that one month probationary period? Also, what type of visa do they claim you'll get?
Moreover, how badly do you want this job? |
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balex
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:11 am Post subject: |
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nomad soul wrote: |
So you have completed a BA degree? Yes or no? |
Yes, I have a bachelor's degree in economics
nomad soul wrote: |
Does this employer intend to fully pay you for that one month probationary period? Also, what type of visa do they claim you'll get?
Moreover, how badly do you want this job? |
Yes, the probation period is also paid (10000mop), after signing a contract the salary will be about 12000mop. They said it will be Non-Resident Worker's Permit.
I really like Macau and excited to have an opportunity to work there, but Im nervous about the details, such as they said I will work as a tourist visa during the probation, because they will apply for "blue card" only after that time. |
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blox
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Lol not having a correct work permit or legal visa is bad enough but surely they are having a laugh suggesting you live at the school haha.
You'll be in the zoo for show 24/7. I would not touch that job...with a stick...ever.... |
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jimpellow
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:06 am Post subject: |
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I think it would be great to be in Macau, but have to concur with the others that this sounds fishy and bordering on slavery. I think there were about 200,000 people in Macau a decade ago, and now there are like a million (pretty much all from the mainland and a fair number of the Portuguese have fled. My gut instinct would be that if they were Macanese Chinese you would more likely than not be alright, but they are probably Mainland Chinese bringing their style of capitalism to this little tasty corner of fantastic cuisine. |
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Dan123
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:08 am Post subject: |
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balex wrote: |
I really like Macau and excited to have an opportunity to work there, but Im nervous about the details, such as they said I will work as a tourist visa during the probation, because they will apply for "blue card" only after that time. |
If they ask you to come over on a tourist visa, that's all you'll ever be on, regardless of how much crap they feed you. |
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Shanghai Noon
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:05 am Post subject: |
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To the OP: I did some digging. You can find the information you need here: http://www.grh.gov.mo/downloads/procedures/TE/E/GRH-TE-L-E.pdf They have a website and a phone number.
There is no such thing as a "visa" for Macau except for select nationalities. They simply don't give them to westerners. The applicant or the potential employer sends the documents to the Macanese Human Resources Office. They send back a work permit. Then the applicant enters Macau the same way a tourist does and completes the application. I have entered Macau three times. They never asked me a single question. |
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balex
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Dan123 wrote: |
balex wrote: |
I really like Macau and excited to have an opportunity to work there, but Im nervous about the details, such as they said I will work as a tourist visa during the probation, because they will apply for "blue card" only after that time. |
If they ask you to come over on a tourist visa, that's all you'll ever be on, regardless of how much crap they feed you. |
Yea, it sounds fair enough and I thought about it. However they need my documents to apply for blue-card and visa process can last up to 6 months as I found out. |
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balex
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Shanghai Noon wrote: |
To the OP: I did some digging. You can find the information you need here: http://www.grh.gov.mo/downloads/procedures/TE/E/GRH-TE-L-E.pdf They have a website and a phone number.
There is no such thing as a "visa" for Macau except for select nationalities. They simply don't give them to westerners. The applicant or the potential employer sends the documents to the Macanese Human Resources Office. They send back a work permit. Then the applicant enters Macau the same way a tourist does and completes the application. I have entered Macau three times. They never asked me a single question. |
Thanks for the link
The main issue is that no one can claim the duration of visa process As I found out there http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=113763 it can last for a long time. |
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Markness
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:07 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't touch that job with a 30-metre stick. 10,000 (probation period.. wtf), and then it goes up a little bit higher. Rent in Macau costs about that much, that is not including the food you are going to eat on a regular basis. I think you'll need about 40-50,000 to live a life similar to that of on the mainland and to be able to save nicely. The housing there is soooooo expensive. I was there just last February and accomodation was by far the most overpriced thing. Food was about 50 RMB a pop, but that wasn't doing any fine dining. Were talking about a cheese sandwich and ovaltine was that price. It is so expensive to live there, and that salary is not very accomodating. You will not live comfortably on that amount, that is a guarantee. From my research I saw that macau's economy went on a decline of 8 percent this year. That only foreshadows a price increase on all goods (and not an increase in your salary) .. stay away!
Macau is a great place to do an overnight visit as you go off to a nicer place like the Philippines, but I wouldn't live there unless they coughed up a nice amount of money. |
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balex
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Markness wrote: |
I wouldn't touch that job with a 30-metre stick. 10,000 (probation period.. wtf), and then it goes up a little bit higher. Rent in Macau costs about that much, that is not including the food you are going to eat on a regular basis. I think you'll need about 40-50,000 to live a life similar to that of on the mainland and to be able to save nicely. The housing there is soooooo expensive. I was there just last February and accomodation was by far the most overpriced thing. Food was about 50 RMB a pop, but that wasn't doing any fine dining. Were talking about a cheese sandwich and ovaltine was that price. It is so expensive to live there, and that salary is not very accomodating. You will not live comfortably on that amount, that is a guarantee. From my research I saw that macau's economy went on a decline of 8 percent this year. That only foreshadows a price increase on all goods (and not an increase in your salary) .. stay away!
Macau is a great place to do an overnight visit as you go off to a nicer place like the Philippines, but I wouldn't live there unless they coughed up a nice amount of money. |
Thanks for your opinion
Just it case, they provide accommodation. Without it I would never even think about that offer. |
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nomad soul

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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:30 am Post subject: |
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balex wrote: |
Just it case, they provide accommodation. Without it I would never even think about that offer. |
"Just in case" what? Accommodation is employer provided. Period. |
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7969

Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:01 am Post subject: |
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nomad soul wrote: |
balex wrote: |
Just it case, they provide accommodation. Without it I would never even think about that offer. |
"Just in case" what? Accommodation is employer provided. Period. |
I think it's pretty clear balex meant the job provided accommodation (he/she stated it twice). No need to be pedantic, is there? |
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